God kills a child for the sin of the father

[Fidel_Castronaut]

No, this is actually like you coming into our home, making a bunch of unfounded assertions in order to preach at us, and being rightly told that what you're saying makes no sense. The martyr card has no value here, christian soldier.

And this is why I believe fundies like this guy must have some sort of mental deficiency.

They perceive themselves as the victim. And I guess this is because their default mode is 'preach' and soon as they come against some opposition to their nonsense they feel like they've been violated in some way.

"onwards upwards christian soldier!"

[Bob Kelso]

It's been my observation that most atheists treat the God character as real but they don't like him, which is why they don't believe (or trust) in him. It's extremely difficult to free oneself from a lifetime of intensive brainwashing.

*bold added by me*

Most? I'm aware that atheists aren't immune to being illogical but this seems like a stretch mate.

The kingdom of david was not 10th century, it was in the BC era, bafoon

Word to the wise; it's best to think before you post, and Google is your friend if you don't know how to spell something as simple as buffoon. Try sticking to synonyms that you know how to spell like; clown, fool, jester.

Idiot.

[Ryantology]

David is the king of the land, his transgressions are the peoples transgressions, just like if Obama were to bomb some random country, the country would hate America not Obama, and would wage war on us not the president, it's the same thing, and if you read the verse, it says God had given the country a sickness from morning to night, and felt he had given enough punishment, and pulled the angel of death back before he destroyed the nation, God is not vengeful but merciful and great,

I wasn't aware that David was an elected official and that his people had any say whatsoever in who ruled them, though I was aware that your god's ability to retaliate against a single transgressor is so poor that he can't do any better than we mere pitiful humans can.

Plus the rules told us not to ridicule the atheistic belief, but how come you guys can straight up downgrade Christians without punishment? But still I will turn the other cheek, and forgive ou of your doings

Aren't you just a fucking saint.

[Chas]

It's been my observation that most atheists treat the God character as real but they don't like him, which is why they don't believe (or trust) in him. It's extremely difficult to free oneself from a lifetime of intensive brainwashing.

No, don't be absurd. We treat the description as real.

The Bible exists, the description exists, it describes a fucking maniac that is worshiped by delusional people.

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No, it isn't.

And btw, it never happened, either. 10th century Judah was a miserable little shithole of wandering nomads and their goats. It could never have supported the population necessary.

The kingdom of david was not 10th century, it was in the BC era, bafoon

*buffoon

[Thumpalumpacus]

God punishes David in a way that he will still be able to perform his Kingly duties because he still ha plans for David, God would not punish the kingdom, since this would not allow the kingdom to continue on, so by taking the son that he had with his shamed wife, he shall be punished but still continue to do his duties as king

The idea that your god wouldn't practice mass or general punishment is belied by the point I made in my previous post. You worship a god who (to hear you tell it) dooms every human to death because of one woman's actions.

If any human were to behave in such a manner, you'd rightly condemn them as being unjust; and I would agree with you. But you carve out an exception for your god.

Tell me, do you consider morality to be absolute or relative, objective or subjective?

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It's been my observation that most atheists treat the God character as real but they don't like him, which is why they don't believe (or trust) in him. It's extremely difficult to free oneself from a lifetime of intensive brainwashing.

I will write as if he's real only to smooth out the prose. Adding "accepting that your god exists only for the sake of argument" is cumbersome and makes for dreary reading, which directly attacks the thrust of polemics.

I don't doubt that many other atheists write in the same manner for the same reason, literary convenience.

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And no, we Christians come in with answers and kindness, then you treat us like this, that would be like me visiting your home, bringing good food, then you just beat me for it

If you came into my house insisting I eat your food, no matter how distasteful I find it, I'd tell you to go hammer sand up your ass. And shamelessly, at that.

[ThomM]

God punishes David in a way that he will still be able to perform his Kingly duties because he still ha plans for David, God would not punish the kingdom, since this would not allow the kingdom to continue on, so by taking the son that he had with his shamed wife, he shall be punished but still continue to do his duties as king

At least one definition of murder is taking the life of a complete innocent

And regardless of the claim - this is just another example of MURDER - and the end does not justify the means.

So - being guilty of murder - the deserves to be punished - sent to HELL

Too bad this is all fairy tales

[Brakeman]

God punishes David in a way that he will still be able to perform his Kingly duties because he still ha plans for David, God would not punish the kingdom, since this would not allow the kingdom to continue on, so by taking the son that he had with his shamed wife, he shall be punished but still continue to do his duties as king

So if I had an employee who didn't follow my orders perfectly, I would be just in killing his daughter because if I harmed him directly, he'd miss a few days at work??

Hmm mighty fine god you've got there.. since that's the best he can do. In the US we would give your god the electric chair for such crimes if he were real.

[Ravenshire]

God punishes David in a way that he will still be able to perform his Kingly duties because he still ha plans for David, God would not punish the kingdom, since this would not allow the kingdom to continue on, so by taking the son that he had with his shamed wife, he shall be punished but still continue to do his duties as king

Trust a christer to make excuses for a serial murderer.

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David is the king of the land, his transgressions are the peoples transgressions

Bullshit. Your pathetic little murderous gawd gets off on killing innocents to punish others.

just like if Obama were to bomb some random country, the country would hate America not Obama, and would wage war on us not the president, it's the same thing

No, it's not the same thing. Unless you're claiming that the people Obama bombed (which he can't do on his own authority dumb-ass) have the omniscience to see exactly what he did and the power to punish him directly without resorting to killing innocents.

and if you read the verse, it says God had given the country a sickness from morning to night, and felt he had given enough punishment, and pulled the angel of death back before he destroyed the nation

Even according to your fucked up excuse ridden "explanation" gor gawd's actions, wouldn't this be enough?!? Why add the murder of an innocent?

God is not vengeful but merciful and great

Oh, fuck me running. You really gonna go there?!?
"Vengeance is [b]mine[/d] saith the lord." Sound familiar ass-munch?!? Didn't you claim to have read that shitty book several times?

Plus the rules told us not to ridicule the atheistic belief, but how come you guys can straight up downgrade Christians without punishment? But still I will turn the other cheek, and forgive ou of your doings

Funny, I didn't see that in the rules. And, what the fuck is an "atheistic belief." Please, please, please, please, please define that one for us. Oh, and get off your fucking high horse.

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The funny thing is that everyone continues to make the same basic mistake, which is thinking that the God character is a real invisible celestial being.

No, not really. I can and have had discussions about whether Professor Snape is truly evil or if he had some redeeming quality. It doesn't for a moment mean that I think Severus Snape is a real person who died at the hands Lord Voldemort (or, more precisely, the fangs of Lord Voldemorts pet snake).

The fact that the idiot on the other end of the discussion actually believes the monster he's defending is real just makes the argument that much more fun.

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If the father quits his job, how does that effect the child, the child is forced into hunger a the parents no longer have money to support the child, if they don't get another form Of income they would probably be kicked from their house

For fuck's sake, but you make shitty analogies. The crime you're gawd committed is more like this. The father quits his job and the child suffers for it. Then the grand-father (your pathetic little gawd) comes in and kills the child to punish the father instead of just punishing (listen carefully here) THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING WRONG. Did you get that?!? Somehow I sincerely doubt it.

And no, we Christians come in with answers and kindness, then you treat us like this

You assholes come in here with baseless assertion, logical fallacies other assorted bullshit, then we treat you like this. Want to be treated better? Quit acting like your shit don't stink, quit trying to "save" us, quit with the condescending attitudes and treat the poor sub-human atheists as your equal for a change.

that would be like me visiting your home, bringing good food, then you just beat me for it

No, it's like you come into my home, break my TV, beat my kids, shoot my dog and rape my wife. The you cry about the abuse you received for doing so.

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In the US we would give your god the electric chair for such crimes if he were real.

Well, the Romans did (allegedly) nail his ass to a cross. Too bad he didn't wait until 1930's - 19410's U.S. Then all the little christer shitheads could be running around with little electric chairs around their necks.