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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 14, 2014 at 10:13 pm
According to Paul's narrative he was a liar, thief, murdered, and overall scumbag. At one time he was a bestiarius, slaughtering animals in the arenas. Then he became head of the local Committee to Promote Virtue and Prevent Vice and hunted down and executed the misguided folks in The Way cult. While he was on a bounty trip to Damascus to round up some more victims he suffered heat stroke and started hallucinating about a guy he called Jesus who could help him by starting a propaganda campaign.
So after recuperating he went to Arabia for three years to get his big lie together and when he returned he flimflammed the local locals of The Way cult with his Jesus son of God story. He traveled far and wide in the Middle East area spreading his new religion and wrote stories about his exploits. Later on his disciples wrote the back story to explain why the Jesus character was worthy of being worshipped.
And the rest is history.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 14, 2014 at 10:22 pm
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(June 14, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: According to Paul's narrative he was a liar, thief, murdered, and overall scumbag. At one time he was a bestiarius, slaughtering animals in the arenas. Then he became head of the local Committee to Promote Virtue and Prevent Vice and hunted down and executed the misguided folks in The Way cult. While he was on a bounty trip to Damascus to round up some more victims he suffered heat stroke and started hallucinating about a guy he called Jesus who could help him by starting a propaganda campaign.
So after recuperating he went to Arabia for three years to get his big lie together and when he returned he flimflammed the local locals of The Way cult with his Jesus son of God story. He traveled far and wide in the Middle East area spreading his new religion and wrote stories about his exploits. Later on his disciples wrote the back story to explain why the Jesus character was worthy of being worshipped.
And the rest is history.
Thank you for enlightening me as to the life and writings of the apostle Paul and the story behind all the new testament writings. All these years I've had it all wrong, but now I understand the truth. No wonder you call yourself Wyrd of Gawd.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 14, 2014 at 10:33 pm
Well, it's either that or else believe in the invisible sky daddy, demons, ghosts, devils, angels, demons, and zombies. So I'll go with my version.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 14, 2014 at 10:45 pm
Quote:Let me get this straight Jesus, who declared himself to be the awaited messiah, and on whom the christian church is founded was not a christian. And James, the leader of the christian church in Jerusalem, was also not a christian.
Your godboy said and wrote nothing, man. All of that shit was written down much later by people who weren't there.
If ( big IF ) there was a jesus he made no mark on history himself.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 14, 2014 at 10:58 pm
(June 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Lek Wrote:
Let me get this straight Jesus, who declared himself to be the awaited messiah, and on whom the christian church is founded was not a christian. And James, the leader of the christian church in Jerusalem, was also not a christian.
It seems that you aren't aware of the basic Christian belief as stated by Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, specifically verses 12-19. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...G;ERV;NKJV
Have you seen any zombies lately?
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 15, 2014 at 9:55 am
(June 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm glad I finally came across a true bible scholar who could straighten me out on the meaning of Paul's writings. Have you been in direct communication with Paul? Why do you think he did that? Are you sure you want to go with that level of corroboration for Bible interpretation?
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 15, 2014 at 11:59 am
(June 12, 2014 at 4:07 pm)muslimatheism Wrote: I was wondering why there are three separate religions when the Jews, Christians, and Muslims claimed to receive the revelations from the same source ? They share the same source, same Prophets, same history and story etc, but then it is three separate religions? If we look at the Jews and the Christians, we can say that they read the same Book but then it is two separate religions? Why ?
I believe there is no religion in Judaism, Christianity and Islam because these facts don't make sense to me.
My own view is that there is a fundamental error in the basic doctrine of monotheism. Each subsequent group attempts to correct this error without really being aware of what the error is and effectively simply repeating the error which results in another schism later on.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 15, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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(June 14, 2014 at 10:58 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It seems that you aren't aware of the basic Christian belief as stated by Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, specifically verses 12-19. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...G;ERV;NKJV
Have you seen any zombies lately?
Yes. I'm familiar with these verses and I am confident of my faith in Christ because we will be raised from the dead at Jesus' second coming.
(June 15, 2014 at 9:55 am)Tonus Wrote: (June 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm glad I finally came across a true bible scholar who could straighten me out on the meaning of Paul's writings. Have you been in direct communication with Paul? Why do you think he did that? Are you sure you want to go with that level of corroboration for Bible interpretation?
Okay. I get your point. Tell me your source for you information on Paul, Wyrd of Gawd, and I'll take a look.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 16, 2014 at 4:57 am
(June 15, 2014 at 4:42 pm)Lek Wrote:
Okay. I get your point. Tell me your source for you information on Paul, Wyrd of Gawd, and I'll take a look.
It's all in the Bible. Read Acts and the books that Paul wrote. He details his story in Galatians chapters 1 & 2. He lays out his religious doctrine in his other writings. Christians really follow Paul's doctrine and rituals. That's because Paul created Christianity.
BTW, Jesus' second coming was technically when he popped out of the tomb. His next one will be his third. And after that his final one will be his fourth. His third coming will be when he's a world dictator for a thousand years. His fourth coming is when he returns, kills all life, and destroys the Earth. Each time he shows up it gets worse than the last time.
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RE: Same source etc, but different religions ?
June 16, 2014 at 5:29 am
(June 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Lek Wrote: Let me get this straight Jesus, who declared himself to be the awaited messiah, and on whom the christian church is founded was not a christian. And James, the leader of the christian church in Jerusalem, was also not a christian.
Lek, I'm not going to comment on Word of Gawds posts. But, surely you did know that Jesus was a Jew right? And that he had brothers and at least one sister? ![Confused Confused](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused.gif) hock:
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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