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Why do you believe in a God?
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(June 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm)Lek Wrote: Call it what you want, but if 9 out of 10 people throughout history believed in God, especially accomplished scientists, I'm going to give that a lot of weight Scientists existed long before anyone got the idea of a monotheistic deity. History of Science There are also many accomplished scientists around today who are either atheists or followers of religions other than Christianity. (June 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm)Lek Wrote: - added to the fact that I experience God. And I've had subjective experiences of Apollo and The Great Goddess. I've mentioned this umpteen times in various topics but all the Christians in this forum ignore it. If your God exists because you experience him, Apollo and The Great Goddess must also exist because I've experienced them. Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
(June 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm)Lek Wrote: Call it what you want, but if 9 out of 10 people throughout history believed in God, especially accomplished scientists, I'm going to give that a lot of weight - added to the fact that I experience God. Do you think that the way to negate a fallacy is to double down on your use of it? Quote: If some reputable person told you he had a stomach ache, would you believe it or you try to make him prove it? Are you admitting that god is just a subjective sensation and not something objectively real? Or are you comparing god to the objective cause of the stomach ache? If it's the latter, then the difference between the stomach ache and god is that a person, regardless of their reputability, could demonstrate the cause of their stomach ache.
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June 15, 2014 at 9:00 am
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(June 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: 1. A lack of reason to not believe isn't really a reason to believe.Yes, I said I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the supernatural higher intelligence. (June 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: 2. We don't really have an answer yet, but that doesn't mean there isn't a more practical one than a god.Yes, no one can prove at least one thing from the whole universe existed out of nothing, and one cannot be a Scientist or be considered as a rational person if they reject the law of cause and effect. However, I don't believe God created these things. God is human terms and understanding, and the terms cannot explain anything about the exact nature of that subject. (June 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: 3. You're addressing a philosophy called solipsism, not quantum physics, which doesn't really prove anything.Then we have two different opinions, and I prefer that are based on the scientific evidence. (June 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: 4. I find some of the rules to be quite silly for most religions.It is normal and maybe because you don't know about the subject, and thus, cannot give a fair opinion on that matter. It is just my opinion. (June 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm)Lek Wrote: Call it what you want, but if 9 out of 10 people throughout history believed in God, especially accomplished scientists, I'm going to give that a lot of weight - added to the fact that I experience God.And how many of those accomplished scientists managed to prove god exists, or do research that led later scientists to find that god exists? Using your reasoning, if 10 out of 10 scientists throughout history (including the 9 of 10 you claim believed in god) never found any traces of god, how much weight do you give that? Heck, much of the evidence they find works to disprove many Biblical tales or claims. You would think that men who were under pressure to find god --either from their own desire to prove god, or from whatever church had sufficient power and influence at the time-- would have come up with something in all of that time. The best they seem to have come up with it is the occasional finding that creationist sites twist or pull out-of-context to try and scratch up a bit of "it could have been god" arguments from.
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