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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:34 pm
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How about Richard Dawkins, is he an Atheist?
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:37 pm
That video is completely useless without the rest of the conversation that was happening before it.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm
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Okay, so it is fake. . . What is the actual context that Richard Dawkins is explaining?
How about this video ?
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm
Did you seriously just post that video?
Okay, it's like this: if you ask an atheist "do you believe in X god?" where X is the god of any religion (the christian god, the muslim god, the hindu god, whatever) then the answer will be no. That's it. That's all there needs to be, to be an atheist.
However, if you ask an atheist whether or not it's impossible that a god exists, the answer could be a yes, no, maybe, pretty much anything. Believing that something is possible is not the same thing as believing that it actually exists.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:46 pm
(June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Okay, so it is fake. . . What is the actual context that Richard Dawkins is explaining?
How about this video ?
Scroll back and read my last post. I already explained to you.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:47 pm
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(June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Esquilax Wrote: However, if you ask an atheist whether or not it's impossible that a god exists, the answer could be a yes, no, maybe, pretty much anything.
That what confused me, and what then is the difference between an Atheist and Agnostic. There are many answers but it is not consistent, ie. as one conclusive conclusion.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 6:51 pm
(June 21, 2014 at 6:47 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: (June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Esquilax Wrote: However, if you ask an atheist whether or not it's impossible that a god exists, the answer could be a yes, no, maybe, pretty much anything.
That what confused me, and what then is the difference between an Atheist and Agnostic. There are many answers but it is not consistent, ie. as one conclusive conclusion.
You cannot be agnostic.
You can be agnostic atheist or agnostic theist or agnostic deist but not just agnostic. There's a thread about this you should check it out.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm
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(June 21, 2014 at 6:51 pm)Losty Wrote: You cannot be agnostic.
You can be agnostic atheist or agnostic theist or agnostic deist but not just agnostic. There's a thread about this you should check it out.
The contention that starts with a question " whether or not it's impossible that a god exists", is based on the assumption that " god exists", and the issue he raises is whether it is possible that god doesn't exits at all.
(June 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Esquilax Wrote: However, if you ask an atheist whether or not it's impossible that a god exists, the answer could be a yes, no, maybe, pretty much anything.
That's what confusing me, including the answer "yes, no, maybe, pretty much anything".
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm
(June 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: The contention that starts with a question "whether or not it's impossible that a god exists", is based on the assumption that "god exists" Are you saying that to believe in the possibility of something existing, you have to first already believe that thing exists?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but that condition wouldn't make any sense.
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 21, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Suppose a supreme being (aka "God") does exist and when it shows up it says that it only cares about bacteria. Would you worship it?
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