Life after death?

[Cato]

You flatter yourself too much by feeling so unique. It's my opinion. Person is a made up word by humans to relate to one another but what you are is actually a process.

You imagine me, as a chemical engineer, if I start naming my alkylation or gas phase processes as Alice or John, and once the reactions are over, the next time I do those same reactions I say that John and Alice are gone, I'll go insane pretty fast lol.

Your life is a result of a thermodynamically favored process that occurred and all I care to know is if that process is reproducible and sustainable. Besides, existence would be very limited if you could only experience it through one point of view don't you think?

I find it amusing that you have to use conceptual knowledge to express your disdain for conceptual knowledge.

[Jenny A]

The state of being before conception and after death are indeed the same. But I wouldn't call life, life after death because there was no death. Death is transition from having been alive to not being alive. It's a one way street. First there wasn't a you, then there is, later there won't be. There won't be you again after that.

You flatter yourself too much by feeling so unique. It's my opinion. Person is a made up word by humans to relate to one another but what you are is actually a process.

You imagine me, as a chemical engineer, if I start naming my alkylation or gas phase processes as Alice or John, and once the reactions are over, the next time I do those same reactions I say that John and Alice are gone, I'll go insane pretty fast lol.

Of course, I am process. I grow, change, and die. I don't even die with the same atoms I began with. But the mere fact that humans can make up the word "person" suggests why analogizing a person to gas phase process is silly. When you repeat a chemical process does the next one have a new personality?

Your life is a result of a thermodynamically favored process that occurred and all I care to know is if that process is reproducible and sustainable.

Hardly, you care very much about your own result of a thermodynamically favored process, and you like and dislike other results of thermodynamically favored processes.

Besides, existence would be very limited if you could only experience it through one point of view don't you think?

New flash. You can only experience existence from the point of view of your current thermodynamically favored process. The part of you that can consider this question at all will die and be gone. That some of those atoms might later be part of another intelligent being is neither here nor there. It's just atoms here and there.

[Whateverist]

You flatter yourself too much by feeling so unique. It's my opinion. Person is a made up word by humans to relate to one another but what you are is actually a process.

I find it amusing that you have to use conceptual knowledge to express your disdain for conceptual knowledge.

Yes the Bokononists understood all of this very well and expressed it much more simply. Before we are born we are mud. While we are alive we are sitting-up mud and have the glorious opportunity to look around and see how fine it all is. After we die we simply go back to sleep as the mud we've always been. (No more looking around).

[Ksa]

Ok let's back up a bit, I think there's some basic lack of knowledge that prevents further discussion:

First, are you aware that there can be an infinity of Universes? If not, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqpNudIss4

After you watch the video, you should realize that there is a non-zero probability for you to exist again in another Universe, on another Earth, in historical and geographical contexts identical to your original birth.

And if you deny that, I challenge you to produce a single naturally occurring thing that only happened or existed once. And if you cannot, realize that if something happens once, it can happen again.

[Whateverist]

Dafuq are you on??? Do not take anymore. Repeat. Do not take anymore of whatever drug you are abusing.

[FatAndFaithless]

Ok let's back up a bit, I think there's some basic lack of knowledge that prevents further discussion:

First, are you aware that there can be an infinity of Universes? If not, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqpNudIss4

After you watch the video, you should realize that there is a non-zero probability for you to exist again in another Universe, on another Earth, in historical and geographical contexts identical to your original birth.

And if you deny that, I challenge you to produce a single naturally occurring thing that only happened or existed once. And if you cannot, realize that if something happens once, it can happen again.

My birth has only ever happened once.

[Ksa]

Dafuq are you on??? Do not take anymore. Repeat. Do not take anymore of whatever drug you are abusing.

You would know mom

[Whateverist]

Yeah, I'm yo momma alright. Now I'm gonna paddle yo hinie. Get over here boy!

[Ksa]

Yeah, I'm yo momma alright. Now I'm gonna paddle yo hinie. Get over here boy!

Ok, so you abuse children, I abuse drugs: We're both abusers. Can I be your friend?

[Jenny A]

Ksa:

Even if you are right about a version on me in another universe (which seems rather uncertain to say the least), would it be me?

It reminds me of the nerdy Star Trek transporter problem: When Ensign Red Shirt is transported the atoms that currently are Ensign Red Shirt are dispersed on the Enterprise and replicated out of other atoms on the planet. The person on the planet thinks and acts like Ensign Red Shirt A. But is the Ensign Red Shirt on the planet really Ensign Red Shirt that was on the Enterprise or merely a duplicate Ensign Red Shirt A1. And if so, did Ensign Red Shirt A die never to be conscious again? I would say Ensign Red Shirt A died and A1 was born with A's memories built in.

Any multiple mes would be like Jennys A1, 2, 3, 4. They may be exactly like me. But my consciousness would not be connected to them merely duplicated by them. Thus, I still only live once.