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No Surprise Here
#11
RE: No Surprise Here
Nope, no surprise at all. Perhaps one set is good at being 'murican, and the other isn't.

Quote:-Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]
-Those persons to whom a skill or set of skills come easily may find themselves with weak self-confidence, as they may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. See Impostor syndrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%...ger_effect
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#12
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(July 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Nope, no surprise at all. Perhaps one set is good at being 'murican, and the other isn't.

Quote:-Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]
-Those persons to whom a skill or set of skills come easily may find themselves with weak self-confidence, as they may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. See Impostor syndrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%...ger_effect

I've gotta say, that is an interesting, accurate application of the DK effect.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#13
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Conservatives pride in being American is kinda odd when juxtaposed to their predilection for secessionist rumblings. Texas, Map of Modern Successionist Movements

So who is it that wants to leave the country?
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#14
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(July 3, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: I've gotta say, that is an interesting, accurate application of the DK effect.
:curtsies: Yeah, surprised myself on that one.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#15
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I'm not proud of anything that doesn't have to do directly with my own personal achievements. National pride makes no sense to me.

As for this country, there's a lot in our history, and a lot going on right now, that is nightmarish and wrong. This country is held in thrall by a mindset that the value of a human life is measured by their credit score and the contents of their bank account, that the magic of the free market is the best way to determine who deserves to live and who deserves to die. That's abhorrent.
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#16
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(July 3, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Why don't you tell us what you are so fucking proud of, Adolf.

I'd be proud to buy you a one way ticket outta here to a commie country of your chosing.
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#17
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(July 3, 2014 at 12:33 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I'm not proud of anything that doesn't have to do directly with my own personal achievements. National pride makes no sense to me.

As for this country, there's a lot in our history, and a lot going on right now, that is nightmarish and wrong. This country is held in thrall by a mindset that the value of a human life is measured by their credit score and the contents of their bank account, that the magic of the free market is the best way to determine who deserves to live and who deserves to die. That's abhorrent.

I disagree with the national pride thing, but I agree with the second paragraph. It's not like the free market isn't necessary, but it can't handle everything by itself, Adam Smith's invisible hand was dead wrong.
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#18
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(July 3, 2014 at 12:45 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Adam Smith's invisible hand was dead wrong.

Actually, Smith understood the need for a "level playing field" in economics, it's his supposed followers that conveniently forget about that part.

They pick & choose.

Kinda mirrors Jesus' teachings & the vast majority of his current set of followers in the USA.

Adam Smith Wrote:"When the regulation, therefore, is in support of the workman, it is always just and equitable; but it is sometimes otherwise when in favour of the masters.

Adam Smith Wrote:"No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable. It is but equity, besides, that they who feed, clothe and lodge the whole body of the people, should have such a share of the produce of their own labour as to be themselves tolerably well fed, clothed and lodged."
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#19
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(July 3, 2014 at 1:15 pm)Jaysyn Wrote:
(July 3, 2014 at 12:45 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Adam Smith's invisible hand was dead wrong.

Actually, Smith understood the need for a "level playing field" in economics, it's his supposed followers that conveniently forget about that part.

They pick & choose.

Kinda mirrors Jesus' teachings & the vast majority of his current set of followers in the USA.

Adam Smith Wrote:"When the regulation, therefore, is in support of the workman, it is always just and equitable; but it is sometimes otherwise when in favour of the masters.

Adam Smith Wrote:"No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable. It is but equity, besides, that they who feed, clothe and lodge the whole body of the people, should have such a share of the produce of their own labour as to be themselves tolerably well fed, clothed and lodged."

I haven't read everything by Adam Smith and I didn't know those quotes, thanks.
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#20
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Wow. Americans whom identify with the idea America could be/do better are less proud of being American than people whom identify with the idea America is just perfect and should not change?
Who would have thunk?
Mind = blown.
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