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RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm
(July 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm)Jextin Wrote: I been having a lot of these thoughts lately, but looks like everyone else is doing better than me. I didnt know it was possible to lose faith in atheism :S what should i do to make it go away? i know god is a jerk and christianity is false, but i still feel scared when i think about dying.
I was a christian the majority of my life. I think I know what your going through Jextin.
I'm guessing your fear of dying is in regards to what's in the afterlife? That is the power of brainwashing. It is embedded deep, and difficult to shake, I know. FEAR is religions main source of power hon. Wish I could say something to take that away from you.
Knowing what I do now, I wouldn't want to spend a day, much less a fucking eternity with a cruel and egotistical being.
RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 6:48 pm
(July 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm)Jextin Wrote: I been having a lot of these thoughts lately, but looks like everyone else is doing better than me. I didnt know it was possible to lose faith in atheism :S what should i do to make it go away? i know god is a jerk and christianity is false, but i still feel scared when i think about dying.
If you know god is false, the you know it. But that doesn't solve the problem of death. If not death itself, most people are afraid of dying. That's normal. But think about it a moment. Death is simply lack of existence. Think about how long you didn't exist before you were born. Was it bad?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 7:50 pm
(July 5, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Jextin Wrote:
I became christian in my teens as I went to church with friends and i really did believe but then as I got older life just started to suck more and more and when people told me things like "god always does whats best for us" and "every day of your life was planned by god" then turn around and say "bad things happen because of free will" i just want to strangle them.
but now as an atheist i have learned to accept life for what it is and make the best of it, but i wonder sometimes if they are right. because what if i die and then gods like "u denied me im sending u to hell!!" and i know it would make him a prick but SO MANY American and European people have believed in Christianity for all these years, can they all be wrong??
IMO the best religion is Buddhism cus its not as much a religion as a life style, not all Buddhists believe in reincarnation or even gods or anything, their basic tenants are basically to be nice to others, control your thoughts, dont do evil things, work for the good of others, and respect all life, and when i read about their stuff how our suffering comes from our desires, that makes a lot of sense to me because i notice a lot of the things that make me depressed are because i dont have something i want - but when i just accept it and let it go, I feel like a huge weight is lifted off me and i can finally relax and sleep at night.
Buddhism philosophy has helped me more than anything, and even modern day psychology incorporates a lot of eastern philosophies into their treatment, like DBT for example.
but i still cant help wonder, what if christians are right??
By definition Christians can't be right because they worship an entity who told his disciples to stay away from Samaritians and Gentiles and that he had only been sent to the Jews. Therefore it's silly for non-Jews to worship him because his message wasn't for them.
RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 8:00 pm (This post was last modified: July 5, 2014 at 8:01 pm by Ryantology.)
(July 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm)Jextin Wrote: I been having a lot of these thoughts lately, but looks like everyone else is doing better than me. I didnt know it was possible to lose faith in atheism :S what should i do to make it go away? i know god is a jerk and christianity is false, but i still feel scared when i think about dying.
According to the Christians' own guidebook, not one Christian alive today would pass muster to go to heaven. Re-read the Sermon on the Mount and don't waste any more time worrying about it.
RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 8:02 pm (This post was last modified: July 5, 2014 at 8:03 pm by LogicOrDie.)
Yeah I do. But I usually chase it away with logic. If God was to judge us for our beliefs; he'll then have strong evidences and charges against us. Which is not the case cause we don't have a clue about any religion's accuracy. So I don't think it's a useful question to think about
RE: Do you ever wonder if the christians are right?
July 5, 2014 at 8:20 pm
If you became an atheist recently (and by recently it can range from 1 month to 2 years) you'll be having a species of 'syndrome' that happens frequently because letting go something you have always believed is though and hard to do. When I quit Christianity, I still was a kind of deist with some beliefs in a creator, it was merely wishful thinking. With time you'll start to think about that question less times until you quit giving a shit about it.
What if Christians are right? They could be. As I usually say, atheism and lack of evidence don't prove any religion wrong. However they make theism/religion highly unlikely, the probability of christians (and by the way, I don't know why you only mention christians, you forgot the other big four religion worldwide) being right is a lot lower than the one of atheists being right (and we are).
It's christians who should be thinking 'what if atheists are right?'
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you