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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 1:47 pm
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Its sad. There are untold amounts of resources in our solar system alone. We are never going to get there while the bulk of humanity expects god to come in 2012 or 2017 or 2035 and live life expecting death any day. The Christians and the Muslims can't seem to get their heads out of their asses long enough to treat each other with respect, much less this planet we live on.
That said I do think humanity is separating itself. The barbarians hold themselves back from progress but there is hope for those who are free to educate themselves and progress. I see it in Sweden and Germany.. and many more nations who can overcome the handicap that is religion, or at least be religious while focusing on life rather than death. The biggest question is: can humanity do it in time before we self implode? I wonder how many other past cultures of humanity have failed?
In conclusion yes it's possible and the number one hindrance to progress is religion IMO.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 1:58 pm
(July 10, 2014 at 5:58 pm)atheist04330 Wrote: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
Space travel? Yes. Unified Earth government? Yes.
Pollyanna vision of a socialist utopia where everyone works hard for the benefit of the whole? Highly unlikely.
Everything about Star Trek is bright and cherry. Even the sets are immaculately clean. Engineers solve every problem that comes up so everything nicely resets at the end of an episode.
Here's a TV series that I think more accurately forecasts what the future will look like:
After watching Babylon 5, I concluded that Star Trek sucks.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 2:57 pm
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(July 10, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (July 10, 2014 at 6:12 pm)KUSA Wrote: Why Jenny?
I don't think travel over the speed of light is possible. Without that, where would we go?
I calculated once that if we could get generation or hibernation ships up to 10% of light speed, we could colonize the entire galaxy in a couple of million years. Assuming we never develop an FTL travel method, the result would be millions of species descended from humans occupying every habitable corner of the galaxy, with almost no contact with each other.
(July 11, 2014 at 10:18 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Niven and Pournelle in The Mote in God's Eye imagined intelligent aliens on a distant planet, stuck in their own solar system for apparently over a million years.
They would build up a civilization in a thousand years or so, then through overpopulation and war, they would collapse all the way back to the stone age, and they would do that over and over and over and over.
I think humanity is headed down a very similar path. Subsequent rises of civilization are going to be VERY difficult for many, many tens of thousands of years because we have done so much damage and used up so many resources in the first climb out of a primitive state. Future rises of civilization will be exponentially more difficult because all the easy energy sources like coal and oil will be used up and cannot reform during the time of inevitable collapse.
Hmm. But wouldn't the collapse also take longer because they'll be using 'greener' energy sources so it will take them much longer to damage the environment to the extent we are?
But I don't think we'll collapse to the Stone Age. Or necessarily at all. If we do, we might be set back to the 19th Century maybe. It's not that easy to forget all of our technology, I think. If we don't get a handle on things, we're in trouble, sure. But we're not going back to the Stone Age short of all-out Nuclear or Biological global warfare.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 3:17 pm
If we collapsed back to 1800, it would be tough to rebuild technology without cheap coal, cheap oil, cheap iron ore, and many other things. Using a windmill to power a steel mill isn't going to get things going very fast.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(July 11, 2014 at 12:56 pm)ThePinsir Wrote: I wouldn't mind a replicator and holodeck! Let's hope they come about sooner rather than later...
Then society would be full of fat people and holo addicts. :-)
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm
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The Enterprise is just not very aerodynamic looking. Even if it were, yeah, I don't think we'll ever develop light speed transit. Neat idea, but...well, maybe it's not.
I would be curious to see what life is like in 1,000 years.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 8:03 pm
No. Humanity won't make it that far.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 11, 2014 at 8:09 pm
(July 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm)c172 Wrote: The Enterprise is just not very aerodynamic looking. Even if it were, yeah, I don't think we'll ever develop light speed transit. Neat idea, but...well, maybe it's not.
I would be curious to see what life is like in 1,000 years.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm
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What you mean like women wearing really short dresses and black tights?
(July 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm)c172 Wrote: The Enterprise is just not very aerodynamic looking.
The Enterprise doesn't have to be aerodynamic, it's a space ship....it never goes into an atmosphere.
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RE: do you think that things will be like star trek one day?
July 13, 2014 at 4:51 am
(July 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm)vodkafan Wrote: What you mean like women wearing really short dresses and black tights?
(July 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm)c172 Wrote: The Enterprise is just not very aerodynamic looking.
The Enterprise doesn't have to be aerodynamic, it's a space ship....it never goes into an atmosphere.
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