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Jesus lied!
#11
RE: Jesus lied!
When you think about it the idea of praying is really silly. What the person is doing is whining to his favorite deity that the deity's plan of causing the person all kinds of grief and misery really sucks and that he wants a better deal. So if a believer really trusts his favorite deity he would accept whatever comes his way because it's the deity's will.

There are few things I hate more than public prayers.
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#12
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(July 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are few things I hate more than public prayers.

Me too... I'm in that white car, and I'm running late!!!
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#13
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No, Jesus didn't lie, Man lied from the beginning by making up the god concept, we can't really consider a primary mythical effect of such concept to be a lie since that was the purpose of it all the time. Did zeus or hades lie too? Maybe who knows from a mythical perspective
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#14
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(July 14, 2014 at 10:31 am)vorlon13 Wrote: While on the cross, Jesus did ask God why he had been forsaken, maybe Jesus had fallen out of favor ??


We all know how touchy God is, wouldn't surprise me one whit if Jesus had screwed up and got Himself disowned. Damn kids, always a disappointment to their folks.

Actually it is worse - since the xtians claim that the christ is part of the trinity of one god.
1 - Why would the god ask a question of itself?
2 - Why would it forsake itself?
3 - It sure sounds like the all knowing god didn't see this coming - but it should have known it all the while.
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#15
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Quote:This the way I interpret these two comments Jesus made to his disciples:

Yes....you would think it needed an "interpretation."
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#16
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(July 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:This the way I interpret these two comments Jesus made to his disciples:

Yes....you would think it needed an "interpretation."

We interpret everything we read. Are you knocking me for thinking?
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#17
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(July 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:This the way I interpret these two comments Jesus made to his disciples:

Yes....you would think it needed an "interpretation."

Obviously it needs interpretation, because taken at face value it can be proven demonstrably wrong. Even devout theists don't always get what they ask for, even if they really need it. So it must be interpreted in such a way that it can still be true. He WILL give you tons of great stuff! In heaven! You just have to believe that heaven is really real. And make sure to donate money to the church, because churches need money to operate as much as the other not-holy businesses.

You would think that as badly as Yahweh wants to be worshiped, he'd make sure anyone who gave him the slightest attention would see their lives get noticably better rather quickly. Every one, even if they're just paying lip service. then as they see that saying the right things to the right god bears tangible results, the person would be more fervent and praise more genuinely and harder.

Instead we can see christians dying on the street while people praying to false gods or no gods live successful lives. Also most of the greatest christian success stories are probably people who are getting money from their congregation. Not from a divine source.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#18
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Quote:We interpret everything we read. Are you knocking me for thinking?

A xtian think? Never.

No, since obviously your jesus boy can't come through on his promises....(continuing the bad politician analogy, there) you simply make excuses for why he lied.

It's called apologetics and you all do that. You have to or you'd have tossed this bullshit long ago.
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#19
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(July 14, 2014 at 7:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: No, Jesus didn't lie, Man lied from the beginning by making up the god concept, we can't really consider a primary mythical effect of such concept to be a lie since that was the purpose of it all the time. Did zeus or hades lie too? Maybe who knows from a mythical perspective

^^^^^This^^^^^
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#20
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(July 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yes....you would think it needed an "interpretation."

We interpret everything we read. Are you knocking me for thinking?

Sorry matey, nothing personal but I need to call bullshit on that one.
"Selective thinking" at best.

Why don't you think about how can the earth be 6000 years old contrary to tons of evidence? Think about all the evoutionary facts available.

We all think what we want to think. If you don't believe in the human pursuit of truth through the scientific method, then where to from here?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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