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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm
(July 28, 2014 at 8:55 am)pocaracas Wrote: Damn! France is messed up!
But I guess it's similar everywhere...
In Lisbon, Portugal, there are certain neighborhoods where the police doesn't go, not because of muslims, but a mix of gipsies and people from the ex-colonies of Mozambique, Angola, Guinea-Bissau and "São Tomé e Princípe".
Their religions are either orthodox (gipsy?), catholic or tribal, so it doesn't play much of a role... I think.
What counts is their wealth level, which is low, low, low. And so is their (apparent) willingness to change that, so many of their youth turn to crime, drugs and all that... luckily they remain mostly in their own corner.
Gipsies are then allowed to go to any fair and sell their counterfeit products and everything is allowed... police on these fairs let them run their businesses, as long as everyone behaves.... and the people get to buy cheap stuff. My vacation was on Lisbon. Why the fuck are there so many gypsies there? And black people, but that's irrelevant I just found it curious for so many black people to live there.
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 5:27 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: (July 28, 2014 at 8:55 am)pocaracas Wrote: Damn! France is messed up!
But I guess it's similar everywhere...
In Lisbon, Portugal, there are certain neighborhoods where the police doesn't go, not because of muslims, but a mix of gipsies and people from the ex-colonies of Mozambique, Angola, Guinea-Bissau and "São Tomé e Princípe".
Their religions are either orthodox (gipsy?), catholic or tribal, so it doesn't play much of a role... I think.
What counts is their wealth level, which is low, low, low. And so is their (apparent) willingness to change that, so many of their youth turn to crime, drugs and all that... luckily they remain mostly in their own corner.
Gipsies are then allowed to go to any fair and sell their counterfeit products and everything is allowed... police on these fairs let them run their businesses, as long as everyone behaves.... and the people get to buy cheap stuff. My vacation was on Lisbon. Why the fuck are there so many gypsies there? And black people, but that's irrelevant I just found it curious for so many black people to live there.
They're attracted by the loads of people desiring to buy cheap stuff...
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 5:29 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 5:27 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: My vacation was on Lisbon. Why the fuck are there so many gypsies there? And black people, but that's irrelevant I just found it curious for so many black people to live there.
They're attracted by the loads of people desiring to buy cheap stuff...
Yeah I accidentally passed by the poor area I think it's mouraria, I don't think I'll go there ever again
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Blackout Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 5:27 pm)pocaracas Wrote: They're attracted by the loads of people desiring to buy cheap stuff...
Yeah I accidentally passed by the poor area I think it's mouraria, I don't think I'll go there ever again
Yeah... you picked the best part of the city...
F'in tourists!
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 5:41 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Blackout Wrote: Yeah I accidentally passed by the poor area I think it's mouraria, I don't think I'll go there ever again
Yeah... you picked the best part of the city...
F'in tourists!
It was not the first time I came to Lisbon but it was the first I came without car so I learned how to get around the city pretty well. The poor area part is just to forget, but I still think the thugs in Lisbon are a lot more harmless than in the North...
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 7:51 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: My vacation was on Lisbon. Why the fuck are there so many gypsies there? And black people, but that's irrelevant I just found it curious for so many black people to live there.
I'd imagine their proximity to North Africa has something to do with it.
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RE: Atheism on the rise - Demographics
July 30, 2014 at 8:14 pm
(July 30, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: My vacation was on Lisbon. Why the fuck are there so many gypsies there? And black people, but that's irrelevant I just found it curious for so many black people to live there.
I'd imagine their proximity to North Africa has something to do with it.
Yes but it's not a big distance from Lisbon to the north of portugal. Sure it may be because of proximity but portugal is a small country and there are more southern urban areas. My guess is because Lisbon is the capital and the centre of most economies, enterprises and people go there looking for a job
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