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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 4:56 pm)Diablo Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 3:00 pm)Blackout Wrote: American Christians look so damn ridiculous from Europe, we almost see them as children who need to grow the fuck up.
If I'm not mistaken the US is the most religious out of all western countries, not even Italy is that much religious, and they have the vatican
Americans have always had that childishness about them; simplistic, really.
It is curious that while the US is supposedly the example of democracy, freedom and fundamental rights, they simultaneously have so much trouble regarding freedom of religion AND from religion, secularism and State-Church separation. Hawkins presented an idea to explain this, he said something like 'In Britain religion got boring, but in the US it became trendy and churches are State funded'.
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 6:22 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 3:00 pm)Blackout Wrote: American Christians look so damn ridiculous from Europe, we almost see them as children who need to grow the fuck up.
The same is said for American atheists....
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 6:39 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Polaris Wrote: Are the Christians in America praying before this sculpture as if God himself was in that statue? Probably not. But I'm willing to bet that many see calling for its removal as an assault against god himself, and for that reason, I say that the monument is an item of worship.
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 6:51 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Polaris Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 3:00 pm)Blackout Wrote: American Christians look so damn ridiculous from Europe, we almost see them as children who need to grow the fuck up.
The same is said for American atheists....
Said by who?
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 6:58 pm
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The thing that I think is ridiculous about the ten commandments, is that death is the penalty for breaking most of them. Why would you want a monument the advocates death for finite crimes and thought crimes?
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 7:12 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Why would you want a monument the advocates death for finite crimes and thought crimes? Or, since 'god's' justice is so different from 'man's' justice, why would you want a monument of god's justice in front of a building that supposes man's justice is supreme?
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 7:24 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 6:51 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Polaris Wrote: The same is said for American atheists....
Said by who?
Europeans who have to deal with them.
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 4:56 pm)Diablo Wrote: Americans have always had that childishness about them; simplistic, really.
What a sophisticated thought -- I'm impressed.
Oh, wait.
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
I thought this part was pretty funny:
Quote:At trial Mr. Mauzy testified that he views this lawsuit as an attack on his religious freedom, thereby reaffirming the impression that the Ten Commandments monument was meant to communicate a religious message.
It's embarrassing enough that he was trying to deny that his motive was religious, but to so transparently try to play both sides was the icing on the cake.
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RE: Blow the 10 Commandments Out Your Ass....
August 9, 2014 at 9:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2014 at 9:07 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(August 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Blackout Wrote: It is curious that while the US is supposedly the example of democracy, freedom and fundamental rights, they simultaneously have so much trouble regarding freedom of religion AND from religion, secularism and State-Church separation. Hawkins presented an idea to explain this, he said something like 'In Britain religion got boring, but in the US it became trendy and churches are State funded'.
... which is a factually incorrect statement.
(August 9, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Polaris Wrote: The same is said for American atheists....
... by the same supercilious assholes.
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