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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:01 am
(August 20, 2014 at 4:59 am)Cato Wrote: (August 20, 2014 at 4:33 am)oukoida Wrote: Whoops! Something tells me I fail US culture! 
I thought it was an excellent example.
- God sends his son to feed people fishes and loaves; Sanders franchised to feed people chicken and biscuits.
- Jesus had twelve apostles; Sanders only needs 7 herbs and spices
- After death, Sanders is more successful than Jesus in the Middle East, North Africa and China despite Jesus' incredible head start.
So the place we should knock is on the door of the nearest KFC, is what I'm hearing here.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:17 am
(August 20, 2014 at 5:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: So the place we should knock is on the door of the nearest KFC, is what I'm hearing here.
If forced to make a choice between the two, KFC would be my choice. Hell, one doesn't even have to knock during normal business hours; anyone's welcome to walk right in. The operation isn't shrouded in mystery either; what's offered and the conditions for acquisition are prominently displayed. The added bonus is that if you walk in, but decide to eat somewhere else there isn't someone stationed at the door to light you on fire on your way out.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:29 am
God is existed and i think that's totally depend upon you wether you believe on god or not. Because if you believe on god then every thing that will happen with you, you can say that god will do it otherwise you only find out the reason that prove you god will exist but you can't find out.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:30 am
hahahaha.... What?
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:34 am
(August 20, 2014 at 5:29 am)ronwilliams Wrote: God is existed and i think that's totally depend upon you wether you believe on god or not. Because if you believe on god then every thing that will happen with you, you can say that god will do it otherwise you only find out the reason that prove you god will exist but you can't find out. It sounds as if you are saying that god is just in your head.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 6:05 am
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(August 20, 2014 at 5:29 am)ronwilliams Wrote: God is existed and i think that's totally depend upon you wether you believe on god or not. Because if you believe on god then every thing that will happen with you, you can say that god will do it otherwise you only find out the reason that prove you god will exist but you can't find out.
Ok so let's see if I'm getting it.
God's existence totally depends on whether or not you believe in him.
If you believe in god, then you can give him credit for everything that happens to you.
Otherwise you cannot find out the reason that everything happens. These reasons (that you cannot find out) are the proof you need to believe in god, but if you don't believe in god you cannot believe in god.
Is this what you're trying to say?
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 3:21 pm
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(August 20, 2014 at 6:05 am)Losty Wrote: (August 20, 2014 at 5:29 am)ronwilliams Wrote: God is existed and i think that's totally depend upon you wether you believe on god or not. Because if you believe on god then every thing that will happen with you, you can say that god will do it otherwise you only find out the reason that prove you god will exist but you can't find out.
Ok so let's see if I'm getting it.
God's existence totally depends on whether or not you believe in him.
If you believe in god, then you can give him credit for everything that happens to you.
Otherwise you cannot find out the reason that everything happens. These reasons (that you cannot find out) are the proof you need to believe in god, but if you don't believe in god you cannot believe in god.
Is this what you're trying to say?
Even with that translation, my head is confuzzled.
(August 20, 2014 at 5:17 am)Cato Wrote: (August 20, 2014 at 5:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: So the place we should knock is on the door of the nearest KFC, is what I'm hearing here.
If forced to make a choice between the two, KFC would be my choice. Hell, one doesn't even have to knock during normal business hours; anyone's welcome to walk right in. The operation isn't shrouded in mystery either; what's offered and the conditions for acquisition are prominently displayed. The added bonus is that if you walk in, but decide to eat somewhere else there isn't someone stationed at the door to light you on fire on your way out.
How do you know that isn't how KFC makes YOU their popcorn chicken?! You can't prove otherwise, because I have this conspiracy theory that I believe in because I believe this conspiracy theory is true!
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Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 4:45 pm
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Just to recap, your process is this:
0) Leave any semblance of rationality behind
1) Earnestly search for some being that has no evidence for it's existence and there are conflicting claims as to the exact nature of this being
2) Don't find anything - then you must have had the wrong idea of this hypothetical being
3) Change idea (but no clue as to what) and search again
4) Repeat ad nauseum
5) Die of old age
If this were a scientific hypothesis that you were doing this method for, you'd quite sensibly never be taken seriously by anyone. However, since this is a claim made in a book written in the bronze age, it's perfectly reasonable?
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 20, 2014 at 5:14 pm
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(August 20, 2014 at 4:56 pm)Tobie Wrote: Just to recap, your process is this:
0) Leave any semblance of rationality behind
1) Earnestly search for some being that has no evidence for it's existence and there are conflicting claims as to the exact nature of this being
2) Don't find anything - then you must have had the wrong idea of this hypothetical being
3) Change idea (but no clue as to what) and search again
4) Repeat ad nauseum
5) Die of old age
If this were a scientific hypothesis that you were doing this method for, you'd quite sensibly never be taken seriously by anyone. However, since this is a claim made in a book written in the bronze age, it's perfectly reasonable?
Don't forget 7- burn in hell for all eternity to appease the petty ego of a God that claims to love you as he roasts you for said eternity, all because he played head games with you instead of going for option one- clearly revealing himself to you.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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