new atheists

[DramaQueen]

There's this thing that's annoying me, I'm bad at expressing myself so forgive me.
There are many people who keep raising these points amongst many others:
1 - we're just going through a phase, and we're just rebelling.
2 - we are stupid, ignorant, naïve or mentally ill.
3 - we were never true believers
I can't counter these idiotic arguments, they're obviously false. And I've never debated much (I keep quiet).

[ShaMan]

[DramaQueen]

I hate how many of our fundies are importing shit your fundies have produced (talk about westernised).

[Minimalist]

I've been in this "phase" for about 50 years now. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

[DramaQueen]

I've been in this "phase" for about 50 years now. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

What if I get cornered or something (if I get outed)

[RobbyPants]

There's this thing that's annoying me, I'm bad at expressing myself so forgive me.
There are many people who keep raising these points amongst many others:
1 - we're just going through a phase, and we're just rebelling.
2 - we are stupid, ignorant, naïve or mentally ill.
3 - we were never true believers
I can't counter these idiotic arguments, they're obviously false. And I've never debated much (I keep quiet).

All three of these are obviously them contextualizing your beliefs within theirs. There is nothing you can do about this, sadly, other than ignore it when you're able.

I'm in my 30's, and sadly, my dad things I'm going through a phase, too. My wife and her family think I'm having a "crisis of faith". It's how they picture these things. The last thing they want is to say "Well, he stopped believing, so maybe it's all wrong".

[John S]

I've been in this "phase" for about 50 years now. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

What if I get cornered or something (if I get outed)

What will happen if you are "outed"? Do you have to fear for your life, social status, reputation, or what?

[Losty]

Why are you so familiar?

[DramaQueen]

What if I get cornered or something (if I get outed)

What will happen if you are "outed"? Do you have to fear for your life, social status, reputation, or what?

I live in a Muslim country where islamists are fighting liberals (albeit both are big fat liars)

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Why are you so familiar?

Cause I've been meeting you in your wet dreams.

[stonedape]

You will be arguing with idiots, so they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. So you may have to implement their metaphoric language and turn it against them. It's important that you establish moral common ground. Just be firm but diplomatic. Flank them with their own logic.
1 - we're just going through a phase, and we're just rebelling.
Free will is timeless. Every one was born with one and has it stolen by tricksters that want to break your spirit and serve the interests of oppression. You refuse to surrender your free will to the slavemasters that rule Islam.
2 - we are stupid, ignorant, naïve or mentally ill.
Tell them you are free. You liberated your soul from the ignorance and mental illness of the imaginary psychopath. Stupid or not, you can think for yourself and that's a start.
3 - we were never true believers
I can't speak for you, because I was never a true believer. Relate your personal experience to them. Discuss the principals taught in the Quran that are compatible with your morals and beliefs. Tell them about the abusive contradictions that are standing in the way of those morals.

Never forget, Allah lives in their mind and you do not have the ability to evict him. It's up to them.