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We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
(August 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Rob_W75 Wrote: Has this piece of creationist banter been seen here before?

Quote:In the Y chromosome alone, humans have only two thirds as many distinct genes or gene families as humans. More than 30% of the chimp Y chromosome lacks an alignable counterpart on the human Y chromosome.

Natural selection could not possibly have fixed so many mutations into an evolving human population in the five to ten million years during which apes allegedly evolved into humans. Evolutionists tried to get round this problem by arguing that much of our DNA is junk and was therefore not fixed in the population by natural selection. However, this argument, too, is falling apart as more and more functions of ‘junk DNA’ are discovered.

In fact we are genetically closer to Puffer fish Fugu rubripes than we are to chimps. 75% of its 31000 genes have direct human counterparts. So by your logic- which assumes shared ancestry- we diverged from puffer fish, not chimps.

Some other differences..

Chimps and other apes have telomeres 23 kilobases long. Human telomeres are only 10 kilobases long.

The claims of "99% similarity" between humans and chimps are lies, based on biased research and faulty methodology by agenda-driven evolutionists btw.


If you make a model plane using rubber wheels and plastic, then go on to make a car with the same materials, does it mean that the plane gave birth to the car? No: it just means that you used the same materials for both, in varying quantities, in places even using the same parts. That is an entirely logical assumption.

Any similarities between living organisms in terms of features or dna show that they share the same designer.

This not only demonstrates that humans and apes share a common ancestor but that some people got stuck half-way down the evolutionary tree.

When will creationists get it through their thick-cranial ridges that evolution does not say we are evolved from chimps or any other modern apes but that we share a long dead ancestor. Direct comparison is fraught with problems as we have both since evolved significantly (well, most of us have).

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#12
RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
This is nothing new, trace all DNA back far enough all life is related.
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
(August 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Rob_W75 Wrote:
Quote:In the Y chromosome alone, humans have only two thirds as many distinct genes or gene families as humans.

Wut?
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
(August 27, 2014 at 6:25 am)Rob_W75 Wrote: Seriously though. Is it accurate to say that we are genetically closer to the puffer fish than we are to Chimps?
No
Sum ergo sum
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
(August 27, 2014 at 7:10 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(August 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Rob_W75 Wrote:

Wut?

Apparently I have only two thirds as many distinct genes and gene families than other AF members.

I'm not surprised to be totally honest. I always felt a bit puffy and a bit fishy on a fundamental level.

MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
(August 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Rob_W75 Wrote: If you make a model plane using rubber wheels and plastic, then go on to make a car with the same materials, does it mean that the plane gave birth to the car?
Apparently, we are able to infer the inner workings of the universe and life et all from the construction of a soapbox racer. Praise jesus!
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#17
RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
So all matter is categorised in the periodic table.
All biology is made up from this matter.
Just like everything on earth comes from just over 100 elements, so does all life come from a small amount of separate proteins.
As everyone said, everything is really just different combinations of the same players.
How then can we be surprised that we or any other life form has similar genetic composition in places? We are considered a carbon based life form, does that make us 90% sand? (Xtards need not reply)!
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RE: We are genetically closer to the puffer fish?
Even if all this were true and evolution was wrong it would not prove creationism correct.
You don't prove one thing just by disproving something else. There are more than two ways life could have got to this stage especially, if you are going to give random fantasies any credence which, is what creationism is.



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