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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 1, 2014 at 6:27 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 6:24 pm)PhiloTech Wrote: Nope, what do you think meditation is?
Siting down, crossing your legs, humming and trying not to think about anything.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 1, 2014 at 6:41 pm
I guess it depends on your definition of prayer. If by prayer you mean...thinking, then yea I do that all the time.
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm
I meditate when I'm playing my guitar -- at least, when I'm doing it right. I lose myself, and I'm not playing the music, but allowing the music to play me.
It does me a world of good, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to find a little peace of mind.
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm
(September 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I meditate when I'm playing my guitar -- at least, when I'm doing it right. I lose myself, and I'm not playing the music, but allowing the music to play me.
It does me a world of good, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to find a little peace of mind.
I tried to learn once. Pressing the strings hurts my fingers. They eventually got crusty and calloused and cracked and it hurt so bad. That's when I took up writing poetry instead.
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 7:20 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 5:16 pm)PhiloTech Wrote: If the the atheist merely prayed to himself and not to a deity do you think it would 'infringe' upon his/her atheism? "Prayer" is always to oneself. The higher mind is "God".
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 7:58 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 5:16 pm)PhiloTech Wrote: If an atheist prayed how would you react and feel about it?
If the the atheist merely prayed to himself and not to a deity do you think it would 'infringe' upon his/her atheism?
Prayer - address to God: a spoken or unspoken address to God, a deity, or a saint.
Atheist + prayer = oxymoron.
Meditation - pondering of something: the act of thinking about something carefully, calmly, seriously, and for some time, or an instance of such thinking.
Atheist + meditation = reasonable
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 8:08 pm
(September 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Losty Wrote: (September 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I meditate when I'm playing my guitar -- at least, when I'm doing it right. I lose myself, and I'm not playing the music, but allowing the music to play me.
It does me a world of good, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to find a little peace of mind.
I tried to learn once. Pressing the strings hurts my fingers. They eventually got crusty and calloused and cracked and it hurt so bad. That's when I took up writing poetry instead.
Calluses are requirements for playing steel-string, but if you ever get the hankerin' again, go to the music store and ask for a nylon-string guitar, much easier on the fingers, can't really play the blues on 'em, but great for classical, jazz, or light pop stuff.
And then you can put your verse to music. 
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 2, 2014 at 8:33 pm
I was going to put this in my gun nut thread, but, WTF. It works here better.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/2014090...f748c.html
Quote:Lawyer says family of girl with Uzi is devastated
Quote:New Jersey-based lawyer Kevin Walsh said the family "prayed day and night that (Vacca) would survive his injury, and they continue to pray for his family during this terribly difficult time."
And, as usual, "fucking prayer" is no match for an Uzi.
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 3, 2014 at 11:46 am
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(September 2, 2014 at 8:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I was going to put this in my gun nut thread, but, WTF. It works here better.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/2014090...f748c.html
Quote:Lawyer says family of girl with Uzi is devastated
Quote:New Jersey-based lawyer Kevin Walsh said the family "prayed day and night that (Vacca) would survive his injury, and they continue to pray for his family during this terribly difficult time."
And, as usual, "fucking prayer" is no match for an Uzi.
What arrogance those who pray have, as if a) their god doesn't know of their travails and needs to be told, and 2) that the entire plan for the universe that their god has mapped out ought to be changed because Grandma is dying a natural death.
They really haven't thought through this prayer thing.
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RE: Atheism and Prayer
September 3, 2014 at 12:00 pm
They haven't thought through much of anything.
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