Was Jesus a God or a man?

[Minimalist]

It's all in the Woo.

[JesusHChrist]

Certainly seems more and more like it.

Once one's brain is infested with "spirits", it's not long before the spirit worms eat out whatever critical thinking skills the host may have once possessed. Them worms is so hungry for tender, juicy brains!

Oddly, if the spirit worms die off (they are allergic to cognitive dissonance) and the host returns to a non-spirit worm state, the critical thinking skills frequently come back.

[Tonus]

It's all in the Woo.

"Why do people keep blaming me for this shit?"

[Zidneya]

1.Then give me an example of human evolution in the past 10,000 years. Looks to me like bacteria are smarter than humans.
Since you failed to do so...I digress

I JUST DID.

Tell me why things just stopped evolving?

We stoped evolving? Where did she got this? From Neon genesis Evangelion?

Because last time I checked we are still evolving:

5 Signs Humans Are Still Evolving
1. WE DRINK MILK

Historically, the gene that regulated a human's ability to digest lactose shut down as they were weaned off of their mother's breast milk. But when we began domesticating cows, sheep and goats, being able to drink milk became a nutritionally advantageous quality, and people with the genetic mutation that allowed them to digest lactose were better able to propagate their genes.

A 2006 study suggests this tolerance for lactose was still developing as early as 3,000 years ago in East Africa. That genetic mutation for digesting milk is now carried by more than 95 percent of Northern European descendants.

2. WE'RE LOSING OUR WISDOM TEETH

Our ancestors had much bigger jaws than we do, which helped them chew a tough diet of roots, nuts and leaves. And what meat they ate they tore apart with their teeth, all of which led to worn down chompers that needed replacing. Enter the wisdom teeth: A third set of molars is believed to be the evolutionary answer to accomodate our ancestors' eating habits.

Today, we have utensils to cut our food. Our meals are softer and easier to chew, and our jaws are much smaller as a result, which is why wisdom teeth are often impacted when they come in — there just isn't room for them. Like the appendix, wisdom teeth have become vestigial organs. One estimate says 35 percent of the population is born without wisdom teeth, and some say they will disappear altogether.

3. WE'RE RESISTING DISEASES

In 2007, a group of researchers looking for signs of recent evolution uncovered 1,800 genes that have only become prevalent in humans in the last 40,000 years, many of which are devoted to fighting infectious diseases like malaria. More than a dozen new genetic variants for fighting malaria are spreading rapidly among Africans. Another study found that natural selection has favored city-dwellers. Living in cities has produced a genetic variant that allows us to be more resistant to diseases like tuberculosis and leprosy. "This seems to be an elegant example of evolution in action," says Dr. Ian Barnes from the School of Biological Sciences at Royal Holloway. "It flags up the importance of a very recent aspect of our evolution as a species, the development of cities as a selective force."

4. OUR BRAINS ARE SHRINKING
While we may like to believe our big brains make us smarter than the rest of the animal world, our brains have actually been shrinking over the last 30,000 years. The average volume of the human brain has decreased from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cubic centimeters, which is equivalent to a chunk the size of a tennis ball.

There are several different conclusions as to why this is: One group of researchers suspects our shrinking brains mean we are in fact getting dumber. Historically, brain size decreased as societies became larger and more complex, suggesting that the safety net of modern society negated the correlation between intelligence and survival. But another, more encouraging theory says our brains are shrinking not because we're getting dumber, but because smaller brains are more efficient. This theory suggests that, as they shrink, our brains are being rewired to work faster but take up less room. There's also a theory that smaller brains are an evolutionary advantage because they make us less aggressive beings, allowing us to work together to solve problems, rather than tear each other to shreds.

5. WE HAVE BLUE EYES
Originally, we all had brown eyes. But about 10,000 years ago, someone who lived near the Black Sea developed a genetic mutation that turned brown eyes blue. While the reason blue eyes have persisted remains a bit of a mystery, one theory is that they act as a sort of paternity test. “There is strong evolutionary pressure for a man not to invest his paternal resources in another man’s child,” says the lead author of a study on the development of our baby blues. Because it is virtually impossible for two blue-eyed mates to create a brown-eyed baby, our blue-eyed male ancestors may have sought out blue-eyed mates as a way of ensuring fidelity. This would partially explain why, in a recent study, blue-eyed men rated blue-eyed women as more attractive compared to brown-eyed women, whereas females and brown-eyed men expressed no preference.

The real question here miss(and I think I speak from many of my atheist colleagues here) is "WERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA THAT WE STOPPED EVOLVING?"


Seriously, Humans stopped evolving? Citation needed.

3.Science makes bombs that science must defend us from. Interesting sure enough.

I already addressed that topic with you before and you couldn't even reply me.

You also blamed science for the planet Which is odd since last time I checked people weren’t causing the climate change in the name of science(however I can tell you a lot of things that people do in the name of religion).
Yeah because if I said that I am a supporter of science ergo I support every stupid decision that it’s done in the name of science right?
It’s like saying to a Christian: You believe in Christianity?... Therefore you must support KKK.

There are hardly any direct questions

Really?

• Yeah because if I said that I am a supporter of science ergo I support every stupid decision that it’s done in the name of science right?
  
• Yeah because we all know that all those fabrics, weapons and machines move on their own without no human intervention right?
  
• Yeah I mean it’s not like people refuse to listen to the scientific data about climate change by putting their religious beliefs as a excuse to avoid listening the truth right?
  
• I gotta ask did you really thought that I won’t notice that you twist the meaning of the Word?
  
• By..? I’m not saying that the rest of the animal kingdom can’t develop intelligence nor that they don’t have any however was there a creature that develop a certain level of intelligence(and therefor wisdom) equally to our species before our species existence?
  
• Why because you have questions? Because you do realize that skepticism is the main reason we all jumped on the atheist train intelligence right?
  
• So you keep yourself in check for the good of others by twisting the words’ meaning?
  
• And you bring up Jesus life because?
  
• You mentioned a higher power. But power that comes from were? To gain what? To accomplish what? To maintain what?
  

Or How about my fellow users as well:

• Mockery is an embarrassment to humanity? JesusHChrist
  
• Who the hell is saying things stopped evolving? FatAndFaithless
  
• Why hold the belief that God is perfect and we're the flawed ones? Especially without any evidence for the existence of god in the first place, regardless of his character? FatAndFaithless
  
• But...isn't the point of the matter that Jesus IS god? How can you hold one alter ego to human standards but not the other? FatAndFaithless
  
• Talk about a rigged race...... What's immoral about atheism, or, less moral - relative to spirituality? Rhythm
  
• How do you know I'm making things worse, and not better? How do you know anything about me, about any of us? And if you don't know us, on what are you basing this accusation? Esquilax
  
• I've never claimed to know everything, or even most things. I don't need to know everything to know you're wrong a given thing, however. Where is this even coming from? Esquilax
  
• Who was being a jerk? Esquilax
  
• do you really feel that the only way people can be nice to you is by constantly agreeing with you? Esquilax
  

So tell me is it this thread lack direct questions or you just avoiding them?

5.You left out the part about the atheist scientist, Price, becoming Christian because of his work. I'm pretty sure his mathematical equation was published.That's how he earned respect in the scientific community, no? If the math is never wrong then altruism does not exist. It's been a while since I read the , Price, story but certain things that makes ya hummmmm, you remember. I remember being very sad at the answer to Price's equation. He did commit suicide.

Oh you wanna talk about that ha? Okay.
Why would a scientist be depressed because because he didn't prove with math that altruism didn't exist? Since when altruism is a topic of scientific study? And which field of science studies that? Physiscs? Geology? Chemistry? Isn't altruism a topic for psychology? And since when we need to do math to study human behavior? You claim that he used evolution to support the math but since when evolution is an altruistic process? Natural selection remember. That means that only the fittest has a happy ending. And why is that a motive to commit suicide? Seems to me she was a very disturbed man and the whole prove the scientific existence of altruism was his windmill chase.

I bet there would be a different outcome in that equation if he had put spirit in there.

Hahaha since when is science obligation to prove the existence of spirits? Isn't that belongs to theology? And since there isn't any testable evidence of the existence of spirits how do you do the mathematical equations? And since you know so much about spirits could you at least tell me the purpose of brains biochemical substance in the popular belief that claims that every human emotion is a spiritual evidence?

It was because of evolution that he proved altruism could not exist.

May I ask the article, study or book that claims that it is because evolution that altruism couldn't exist? Nad if it is because evolution that altruism can't exists the how does it exists?

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Rogue if you are gonna continue posting could you at least not waste our time by writing your own opinions as reality?

[Minimalist]

You're turning out to be a true dope, Rogue. Wise up.

http://www.livescience.com/19993-humans-...ction.html

The fact that natural selection continues to occur in humans during the advent of agriculture and other major cultural shifts "means that biology and culture must have interacted and shaped each other to an extent underestimated so far," Courtiol told LiveScience.

"Most scientists studying human evolution focus only on our hunter-gatherer way of life 10,000 years ago, but we show that, albeit interesting, this will not give you a complete picture of the story — we also need to focus on how people were living until very recently, and probably even today," Courtiol added.

Time to put the fucking bible down and get real. You don't want to end up like Drippy, do you?

[Zidneya]

You're turning out to be a true dope, Rogue. Wise up.

Perhaps it's our fault. I mean we can't just expect that every agnostic and atheist that register in this forum is gonna be a good addition to our community. Don't get me wrong on certain level we agree with you. I mean I don't deny nor claim that she is turning out to be a true dope……

But as a nerd I can assure you that she ruined me my future X-men readings something that not even Anna Paquin did.

[JesusHChrist]

Rogue was a woo infested dope from the get go.

Not too far from the if we evolved from monkeys, why cum they's still monkeys? ilk

[Zidneya]

But as a nerd I can assure you that she ruined me my future X-men readings something that not even Anna Paquin did.

I was wrong.

Mental Note: Never underestimate the power of Marvel comics plot lines.

[Rogue]

All I can say is Peace. I am not here to attack atheist. I don't agree with them but I don't hate them. I don't "mean" to disrespect them. This thread was started as a question to Christians. Doubting Christian beliefs.

So why are there so many mad atheist here. Do ya'll have the patent on converting Christians? I don't think so.

It is certainly possible I missed some questions in this hi-jacked thread. It's all over the place. I think that's probably why many of mine were not answered as well. No matter because they are mostly irrelevant to the OP.

I really don't understand how a human Jesus upsets every one so much. I can understand why a Christian might get mad, even though they are not suppose to, but Atheist why. I am as sincere as I can be?

I just care about people. All people, yes even psychopaths. It's a curse.

So here is my olive branch.

[Whateverist]

I really don't understand how a human Jesus upsets every one so much. I can understand why a Christian might get mad, even though they are not suppose to, but Atheist why.

Who is upset by Jesus? The one thing we can all agree on is that he is a major character in that bible book. Perhaps there is a historical person by that name on which the new testament was based. Don't know. But before I can entertain the possibility he was 'god', I really need a stone cold, unambiguous definition of what would count as a 'god' thing.

Until that gets settled perhaps you would like to explain the significance of this thread's question. Why does it matter? What significance attaches to thinking that Jesus was or was not a god-thing?