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Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
(October 7, 2014 at 4:43 pm)ShaMan Wrote: What is the purpose of this thread?
I think the idea is that Christians neglect children too and even neglect them to participate in church. But I think we should reject that message. This particular neglect was done by a Christian but not really related to Christianity.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
(October 7, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 7, 2014 at 4:48 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Perhaps at first glance.

Perhaps. What do you conclude from a second glance?
I'm trying to discern if this is a Christian bashing thread or a stupid adult thread.
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#13
RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
(October 7, 2014 at 4:52 pm)ShaMan Wrote:
(October 7, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Perhaps. What do you conclude from a second glance?
I'm trying to discern if this is a Christian bashing thread or a stupid adult thread.

Could be both...


Oh, and I live in San Diego, so I'm not really ever that far away from you Smile
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#14
RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
Why not both?
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
I'm wondering if there's even a difference.

In fact, the one practically demands the other.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
(October 7, 2014 at 4:53 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(October 7, 2014 at 4:52 pm)ShaMan Wrote: I'm trying to discern if this is a Christian bashing thread or a stupid adult thread.

Could be both...
Let us hope that it is not yet another "us vs. them" thread, and that it's just highlighting the importance of being a responsible child guardian.
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#17
RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
It is both. And further evidence of the powerlessness of jesus.

Or disinterest.
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#18
RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
The story is a testament to the underwhelming power of religion. It has nothing to do with "us vs. them". The point of the post is to highlight the unarguable and blatant lack of supernatural intervention. How can people actually think that there is a moral god while their god is watching an innocent child die while his followers are worshipping him in church? I guess they will each individually and as a church try to rationalize that issue. i just don't know how anyone in the congregation can feel like their god will intervene on their behalf if he didn't protect that child.

I guess these stories are a little more shocking to me as a new atheist. More informed atheists are probably familiar with hearing these stories about believers suffering from the consequences of reality while not receiving miraculous intervention.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
Quote: How can people actually think that there is a moral god while their god is watching an innocent child die while his followers are worshipping him in church?


Free will...mumbo-jumbo...god's will....mysterious ways....yada, yada, yada.

Some combo of the above bullshit is usually trotted out.
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#20
RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
(October 7, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: ..bullshit is usually trotted out.
When I have the trots, that's not what comes out.
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