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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 10:59 am
This enough religion bashing for everyone? I'm sure there's a lot more where this came from.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 11:01 am
Or the classic: the kid was growing up to be another Jeffery Dahmer or Adolf Hitler or something.
Of course, then one wonders why God didn't off Jeff . . . .
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 11:24 am
(October 8, 2014 at 11:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Or the classic: the kid was growing up to be another Jeffery Dahmer or Adolf Hitler or something.
Of course, then one wonders why God didn't off Jeff . . . .
It's a mystery....
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 11:29 am
(October 8, 2014 at 10:47 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (October 8, 2014 at 10:45 am)Stimbo Wrote: How about the most patronising and banal excuse of them all: "Well clearly, it was that child's time to die."
That's gotta be in there at some point.
"God needed another angel"
An excuse which carries an implied additional point: "God needs another angel, and he has somehow lost the ability to create them ex nihilo."
Isn't it fun, when bland christian nothings end up containing deeper, unaddressed implications for their religion as a whole?
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Lord be praised.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Where do they grow these people?
Unreal. Such a sad story.
I echo those calling out the hypocrisy here.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 11:29 am)Esquilax Wrote: (October 8, 2014 at 10:47 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "God needed another angel"
An excuse which carries an implied additional point: "God needs another angel, and he has somehow lost the ability to create them ex nihilo."
Isn't it fun, when bland christian nothings end up containing deeper, unaddressed implications for their religion as a whole? ![Tongue Tongue](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Y'know, when two hydrogen nuclei fuse to make a helium nucleus, a positron and a neutrino and photon are emitted. There is no new mass/energy since the Big Bang.
Maybe angels are a necessary byproduct of some heavenly process; God can no longer make them ex nihilo.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 3:25 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chas Wrote: Maybe angels are a necessary byproduct of some heavenly process; God can no longer make them ex nihilo. ![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif) If you listen carefully, you can almost hear god muttering "fucking fine tuning is bullshit!!!" under his breath.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 4:49 pm
I appreciate the OP. I find it completely relevant to this forum, and am happy it was posted (although I'm not happy it happened).
In response to 'What's next Sunday's church service going to be like?', I'm pretty sure it will be just the right amount of bereavement. Christians are good at bereavement. Opportunities to make long lasting impacts, flourish in the wake of emotional stress. I predict that the mother will find herself in a retelling of The Scarlet Letter, eventually-- only people don't openly say they're discriminating against her, they just do it. Its an inevitable conclusion--and a reality for many people-- that when bad things happen, the recipient is deemed responsible or even deserving of such events, in many religions. Which is the inevitable conclusion of when you throw in absolutes such as an antithesis to good and god-- which is bad, and the devil. A highly limited frame of thinking, I'm my opinion.
Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
Also, Shaman, love you dude but Beccs is right.
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RE: Child dies in hot car while parent is in choir practice
October 8, 2014 at 4:51 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chas Wrote: (October 8, 2014 at 11:29 am)Esquilax Wrote: An excuse which carries an implied additional point: "God needs another angel, and he has somehow lost the ability to create them ex nihilo."
Isn't it fun, when bland christian nothings end up containing deeper, unaddressed implications for their religion as a whole? ![Tongue Tongue](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Y'know, when two hydrogen nuclei fuse to make a helium nucleus, a positron and a neutrino and photon are emitted. There is no new mass/energy since the Big Bang.
Maybe angels are a necessary byproduct of some heavenly process; God can no longer make them ex nihilo. ![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif)
If you think about it, God apparently lost the ability to make shit ex nihilo after creating Adam, since even then he had to use a rib to create Eve. I guess he got plumb tuckered out. Poor baby~
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