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Transcendental Knowledge?
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Transcendental Knowledge?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Yeah, I'm way out of my league here. Any thoughts I have come in question form and stupid ones at that, I imagine. I'll refrain from asking until this plays out a bit.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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Wall of text... sorry, I only went for the bolded parts and it sounds a lot like the Quantum Mechanics debate of the 1920's.
Does something exist or happen if no conscious subject is observing it?
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urgh. I have much respect for Pickup, but a couple paragraphs would be nice. I'll try to get through the wall though, as I suspect something interesting might be behind it.
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He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Whoops. I meant to put this quote in my OP, as it's directly where I took the title from, and it basically summarizes everything else I've quoted from Schopenhauer:

"I therefore lay down the principle of the permanence of substance as a corollary of the law of causality. Moreover, we cannot possibly have arrived a posteriori at the conviction of the permanence of substance, because in most cases it is impossible to verify the facts empirically... that principle expresses trascendental knowledge, that is, a knowledge that determines and fixes prior to all experience everything possible in all experience. But in this very way, such knowledge reduces the world of experience generally to a mere phenomenon of the brain."
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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I think that it's amusing that the author talks about arbitrary assumptions made by this or that other system - but imagines that consciousness as a given is somehow different from those other assumptions.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(October 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I think that it's amusing that the author talks about arbitrary assumptions made by this or that other system - but imagines that consciousness as a given is somehow different from those other assumptions.
Would you deny that consciousness is fundamental to experience--and therefore, all intuitive, perceptive, complete, empirical representations?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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I wouldn't know how to deny it (as in "it" itself) - but how would I use it to establish that it is fundamental? That's after establishing that it exists, of course. Wink
(that being said.....experience...yeah, I could easily deny that consciousness was fundamental to experience - I've irritated the shit out of people that way before in my little comp mind runabouts)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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