Posts: 433
Threads: 2
Joined: July 20, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:12 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I think it refers to universal knowledge that spans over and above knowledge of particulars. Pick-up?
What do you mean by "knowledge of particulars"?
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
Posts: 8711
Threads: 128
Joined: March 1, 2012
Reputation:
54
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:18 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (October 17, 2014 at 11:44 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Just because we only know the world by means of the senses does not mean that you cannot reason about the parts of reality that exist apart from the senses. Good luck with "reasoning" about anything that exists "apart from the senses". Why would you assume that reason even applies to things "apart from the senses"? a^2 +b^2 = c^2. The theorem remains true apart from any particular set of sensible bodies. It would be true even if humans never existed.
Posts: 5492
Threads: 53
Joined: September 4, 2014
Reputation:
55
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Kant would argue that Mathematics is necessary and universal, but that the knowledge gleaned from it is tacked on. He categorized it as synthetic a priori. Now, which one of you have I agreed with and which one have I challenged. Haha I'm way in over my head here.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
Posts: 67211
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:21 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2014 at 12:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Geometry Chad........? I don't think that you thought this through very well. Are the rules of geometry,, in your estimation, something doesn't require one of your sense to establish or reason about? What is a triangle? What is this thing we call a triangle that necessitates a mathematical description or a set of rules regarding their arrangement? A shape, a relationship between boundaries and space.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 8711
Threads: 128
Joined: March 1, 2012
Reputation:
54
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm)One Above All Wrote: (October 17, 2014 at 12:12 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I think it refers to universal knowledge that spans over and above knowledge of particulars. Pick-up?
What do you mean by "knowledge of particulars"? In everyday life triangles come is very many different instances, yet all embody the triangular. The idea of triangular transcends any particular embodied triangle.
Posts: 67211
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2014 at 12:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The idea is -defined- by those particular "triangles". Its descriptive.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 433
Threads: 2
Joined: July 20, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:29 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (October 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm)One Above All Wrote: What do you mean by "knowledge of particulars"? In everyday life triangles come is very many different instances, yet all embody the triangular. The idea of triangular transcends any particular embodied triangle.
Are you trying to say that definitions transcend what they define?
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
Posts: 3817
Threads: 5
Joined: November 19, 2012
Reputation:
54
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:34 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (October 17, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Chas Wrote: No, mathematics is invented. Then I challenge you to invent your own personal form of mathematics.
It is done all the time by mathematicians. Create some axioms, some rules of inference, and boom! new formal system with new theorems and new truths.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Posts: 8711
Threads: 128
Joined: March 1, 2012
Reputation:
54
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:37 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:29 pm)One Above All Wrote: (October 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: In everyday life triangles come is very many different instances, yet all embody the triangular. The idea of triangular transcends any particular embodied triangle.
Are you trying to say that definitions transcend what they define? Not exactly, definitions come from our intellect trying to understand that from which a particular instance of triangle gets its triangularity.
Posts: 433
Threads: 2
Joined: July 20, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Transcendental Knowledge?
October 17, 2014 at 12:38 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 12:37 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Not exactly, definitions come from our intellect trying to understand that from which a particular instance of triangle gets its triangularity.
Then say what you mean in clear terms, because that was my best guess as to what the fuck you were talking about. 
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
|
![[Image: LB_Header_Idea_A.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk172%2FBlaziken_rjcf%2FLB_Header_Idea_A.jpg)
