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An argument for why God would make himself known.
#21
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 9:55 am)Heywood Wrote:
(October 29, 2014 at 9:45 am)Stimbo Wrote: I think I spotted the problem.

If God wanted everyone to know He exists... He could have wrote his name on the side of the moon. But He wanted to keep us guessing so he made the moon the same apparent size as the sun.

If god doesn't want me to know about it, then why do christians and muslims and jews and hindus and all others keep telling me about their gods?

God itself doesn't care, so you people just leave me alone!
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#22
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
@Chad:

Our natural inclinations are a decent general approximate guide, but we cannot rely on it alone. At some point we have to assess reality on its own terms instead of applying onto it our own personal beliefs and biases of how we might prefer it to work. At some point, natural inclinations however cherished must give way to evidence, where the two are in conflict.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#23
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
God has been fucking with the moon? That bastard!
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#24
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:14 am)rasetsu Wrote: God has been fucking with the moon? That bastard!

What are the odds the sun and the moon would appear to be the same apparent size at the exact same time intelligent beings would exist to appreciate it?

I used to think it astronomical and maybe it still is....but I now know things about solar system formation that suggest to me that perhaps its not such a long shot after all.
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#25
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
Really? The "What are the odds" argument? I dunno what the odds are, you tell me since you're using that as your argument.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#26
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:14 am)rasetsu Wrote: God has been fucking with the moon? That bastard!

Well that gives "man in the moon" an entirely new meaning...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#27
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
It is astronomical. That's the whole point. What significance do you think it has?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#28
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:23 am)Stimbo Wrote: It is astronomical. That's the whole point. What significance do you think it has?

Slartibartfast wrote his signature into the fjords of Norway. I imagine that if God exists we might see his signature or mark somewhere too.

Is it a good argument for God? Of course not....Just something to think about.
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#29
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:19 am)Heywood Wrote:
(October 29, 2014 at 10:14 am)rasetsu Wrote: God has been fucking with the moon? That bastard!

What are the odds the sun and the moon would appear to be the same apparent size at the exact same time intelligent beings would exist to appreciate it?

I used to think it astronomical and maybe it still is....but I now know things about solar system formation that suggest to me that perhaps its not such a long shot after all.

They are not of the same apparent size most of the time. Through the variation of the orbits of the earth around the sun and that of the moon around the earth, there is considerable variation combining to maybe 15% change of the apparent relative sizes. This increases the odds that there can be an exclipse.

But what's your argument anyways?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#30
RE: An argument for why God would make himself known.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:34 am)Alex K Wrote:
(October 29, 2014 at 10:19 am)Heywood Wrote: What are the odds the sun and the moon would appear to be the same apparent size at the exact same time intelligent beings would exist to appreciate it?

I used to think it astronomical and maybe it still is....but I now know things about solar system formation that suggest to me that perhaps its not such a long shot after all.

They are not of the same apparent size most of the time. Through the variation of the orbits of the earth around the sun and that of the moon around the earth, there is considerable variation combining to maybe 15% change of the apparent relative sizes. This increases the odds that there can be an exclipse.

You have annular and ocular eclipses that make it easy to see that yes there arn't always exactly the same apparent size. Still when I gaze up at the sky...they always have seemed the same size to me.
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