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a contribution by a muslim.
#41
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
I'll be honest, there IS Islamophobia in the world. Watch any Faux News piece on Islam or Muslims and you'll see plenty of it. You see it in the behavior ordinary Americans had towards Muslims after 9/11 and you hear it from politicians and political pundits who use Muslims as "the enemy."

Me, I don't stand for that. I still think Islam is factually incorrect and I think if you get overly fundamentalist about any ideology, you may get a little dangerous, but I don't think that's limited to Islam. Christians certainly have their dangerous fundamentalists, from Anders Behring Breivik to people who assissinate abortion doctors to Westboro Baptist Church.

So, yeah, Islam sucks, but they really don't suck any more or less than any other mythology.
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#42
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 3, 2014 at 7:50 am)jesus_wept Wrote: On the of chance this isn't a joke, do you have any evidence Europeans are skinning Arabs alive? It's the first I've heard of it.
The Bosnian Serbs (Christian Orthodox) under Slobodan Milosovic attempted an 'ethnic cleansing' (genocide) of the Muslim populations of Bosnia & Croatia. This included some brutal killings including shootings, skinnings, heads on spikes, burnings... truly sickening. There was, unfortunately, plenty of photographic evidence.
Sum ergo sum
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#43
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 3, 2014 at 8:16 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(November 3, 2014 at 7:50 am)jesus_wept Wrote: On the of chance this isn't a joke, do you have any evidence Europeans are skinning Arabs alive? It's the first I've heard of it.
The Bosnian Serbs (Christian Orthodox) under Slobodan Milosovic attempted an 'ethnic cleansing' (genocide) of the Muslim populations of Bosnia & Croatia. This included some brutal killings including shootings, skinnings, heads on spikes, burnings... truly sickening. There was, unfortunately, plenty of photographic evidence.

yeah, I've seen some of the pics, including ones of people beheaded and tortured by Muslims. I just thought, by the way he said it, that there was gangs of Europeans going round skinning Arabs alive.
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#44
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
Atlas, I never insinuated that this life is only precious because we're meant to have fun in it. Don't do that again, there's a good chap.
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#45
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 3, 2014 at 8:29 am)jesus_wept Wrote: yeah, I've seen some of the pics, including ones of people beheaded and tortured by Muslims. I just thought, by the way he said it, that there was gangs of Europeans going round skinning Arabs alive.
Well, the horror of actions taken by Slobodan's troops has led to stories of rogue gangs of Serbian killers, still carrying out their dead leader's instructions by butchering any muslim they come across. I don't know if there's any evidence for those claims but it's easy to understand how they came in to existence.
Sum ergo sum
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#46
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
It's easy to see where many tall stories come from but that doesn't make them true.
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#47
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
Stimbo

About the atomic bombs ; I did have an extra point -it's to miniboes too-.
In Arabic we have a very famous quote : كلمة حق اريد بها باطل
In English it's "a word of good, aimed to do evil".

Did the USA build that bomb to end the war ? or to achieve military dominance over the whole world ; turning into the biggest superpower ?
We saw that during the nuclear race between USA & the USSR, that bomb is literally a كلمة حق اريد بها باطل

The japanese army was insane ; I must admit they were a more hideous copy than the nazies, but the American army wasn't any better..funny thing is that after all these years, the USA did use atomic weapons against Iraq in the 80s, the famous mini-nuke shell was famously called "silver bullet", you can google it ; it's mainly anti-tank, and radio-active tanks still exist in the Iraqi desert.

So actually, it was no greater good. Saddam didn't do raids on america, neither did he ally himself with a hitler-like figure to cause a huge threat to america.

That bomb is a كلمة حق اريد بها باطل، nothing would change that fact.

About the makers,either americans or soviets ? i hope they burn in the hell they burned the japanese citizens in.

Only the ones who made the weapon..

TaraJo

It's too much (islamophobia i mean) . And went too far. One result of it, is Muslims being attracted more & more to cults like ISIS, since the embarrassment & terrible feel of isolation in western societies cripples them mentally & leads many to blindly hate the west.

Atheists are just like everybody else, atheism can lead to crimes & even worse ; since it's a human behavior to cause violence under certain conditions.



(November 3, 2014 at 10:58 am)jesus_wept Wrote: It's easy to see where many tall stories come from but that doesn't make them true.

What's your problem ?
How could you possibly be denying the genocides happened against Muslims in Bosnia ? how sick are you ?
There are documented cases of Muslim children mass murdered by Europeans, the UN documented them.

Until this day, many parts in Europe & America are not safe for Muslim citizens, in one of the most disgusting cases of racism & international silence against it.
America's south is blocked in front of me, because I know I might be kidnapped & killed just because of my name, eastern europe -especially countries like Serbia- is a killing ground for somebody like me.

How dare you ?
Go live in the fantasy you were living at, and keep watching MSM
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#48
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 6, 2014 at 4:01 pm)AtlasS Wrote:
(November 3, 2014 at 10:58 am)jesus_wept Wrote: It's easy to see where many tall stories come from but that doesn't make them true.

What's your problem ?
How could you possibly be denying the genocides happened against Muslims in Bosnia ? how sick are you ?
There are documented cases of Muslim children mass murdered by Europeans, the UN documented them.

Until this day, many parts in Europe & America are not safe for Muslim citizens, in one of the most disgusting cases of racism & international silence against it.
America's south is blocked in front of me, because I know I might be kidnapped & killed just because of my name, eastern europe -especially countries like Serbia- is a killing ground for somebody like me.

How dare you ?
Go live in the fantasy you were living at, and keep watching MSM

Your quote of mine was in direct response to this.

"Well, the horror of actions taken by Slobodan's troops has led to stories of rogue gangs of Serbian killers, still carrying out their dead leader's instructions by butchering any muslim they come across. I don't know if there's any evidence for those claims but it's easy to understand how they came in to existence."

So, if you wouldn't mind not taking me out of context to call me names and talk bollocks, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
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#49
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm)jesus_wept Wrote: Your quote of mine was in direct response to this.

"Well, the horror of actions taken by Slobodan's troops has led to stories of rogue gangs of Serbian killers, still carrying out their dead leader's instructions by butchering any muslim they come across. I don't know if there's any evidence for those claims but it's easy to understand how they came in to existence."

So, if you wouldn't mind not taking me out of context to call me names and talk bollocks, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

You are welcome.

But nothing was out of context ; I actually read the whole comment.
You hear about people being "skinned alive" and butchered -and these are the real documented stories-, and you worry about the fake ones ?

To me, that's a person looking for an excuse or a way out of a crime. Does it even matter what is faked & what is not, when one story is correct and totally true about people being genocide, butchered & killed ?

If the victims weren't muslims, rather -let's say- Christian/Atheist Europeans , would you say the same sentence ?

if 1 story is ACTUALLY documented, then it's a disaster, and a shameful act that shall be carved in blood over Europe's history. Because obviously, your comment makes people "ignore the real stories" and assume the "well some are made up so... it can't be that bad".

Again, you are welcome.
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#50
RE: a contribution by a muslim.
(November 3, 2014 at 6:09 am)AtlasS Wrote: Are you Bosnian ?

Was. Not anymore...

Religious nuts put me in concentration camp too (for a year).

Water-boarded as well for being who I am. It's all a distant past to me now ...

The fact remains:

Religious people (most of them), when backed in the corner commit atrocities (eye witness here) far worse than you can imagine, and yes, they always somehow justify it trough religion.

They all deny it would ever happen, but it ALWAYS does.

And then apologist like you comes along and start blabbering that's not what religion is all about, well, I say it is, religion IS what religious people make of it, period Wink
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