Eternal punishment is pointless.

[The Valkyrie]

Gotcha.

More religious white noise.

You understand nothing about our God.

GC

YOUR god.

If I were to have an imaginary friend they would be far more interesting.

RJA.

[Godscreated]

@ those in this argument. You're coming to fast with you responses having trouble keeping up and am signing off for awhile.

GC

[Angrboda]

Where can knoweledge of Hell be sourced? Only the bible can provide such knowledge/or verify it. The catholic version of hell has it's roots in various religions it has assimilated over the centuries. The biblical version is not so elobrate, with different levels of hell and or puratory where the devil rules the realm. All those elements were borrowed from the greeks, pagans and roman mythology.

If you want to talk about the God of the Bible or the Hell of the bible then it is to the bible we must turn to for reference.

22 Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house — 28 for I have five brothers — in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

Luke 16:22-28

Seems pretty clear to me, Drich. Hell is a place of flame.

[Thumpalumpacus]

There's a verse where he asks Yahweh to "let the cup pass from me, yet not my will but your will be done".

Exactly. How can the Christ be an avatar of the god if their wills are misaligned?

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I'm asking you, as a thinking person, to explain it as you understand it.

@ those in this argument. You're coming to fast with you responses having trouble keeping up and am signing off for awhile.

GC

Can't say I blame you. If I had to defend that nonsense, I'd bail out, too.

[Angrboda]

Just to be clear on some of the issues. So that we're on the same page. I would like to hear some definition of trinity from our christian friends. I know what my catholic upbringing told me, but what about you?

I gave it in another post you were involved in, if you do not read and learn what I believe it's your fault.

GC

The patented "I gave it elsewhere that I won't link you to" excuse. It's one of GC and Frodo's favorite excuses. Us plain folk simply refer to it as dishonest evasion.

[KUSA]

You understand nothing about our God.
GC

I do. Your god is such an asshole that the angels that lived in paradise with him turned on him.

[Cyberman]

@ Stimbo, I see you haven't gotten any farther along in life with others.

GC

Hey, I'm not the one with imaginary friends.

Perhaps for an encore, you might explain what all this has to do with anything I wrote.

[Cyberman]

@ those in this argument. You're coming to fast with you responses having trouble keeping up and am signing off for awhile.

GC

Just for the record, I make a point of reviewing the datestamp of the posts to which you choose to respond. That way I can see whether you've caught up or not.

[dyresand]

@ Stimbo, I see you haven't gotten any farther along in life with others.

GC

Hey, I'm not the one with imaginary friends.

Perhaps for an encore, you might explain what all this has to do with anything I wrote.

He like all theist say people who are burning in hell deserve to be there because either a they did not accept god or jesus. b or horrible people. c they are sinners and only sinned d. homosexuals. e. satanists. f. because its gods divine will of those people he loves to burn forever. g. they weren't real Christians.

[Godscreated]

@ those in this argument. You're coming to fast with you responses having trouble keeping up and am signing off for awhile.

GC

Can't say I blame you. If I had to defend that nonsense, I'd bail out, too.

I did not bail out, I took a break and I believe I made that quite clear.

GC

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I gave it in another post you were involved in, if you do not read and learn what I believe it's your fault.

GC

The patented "I gave it elsewhere that I won't link you to" excuse. It's one of GC and Frodo's favorite excuses. Us plain folk simply refer to it as dishonest evasion.

Well miss simpleton, I do not remember where it's at, I do remember explaining what I believe and if anyone is interested in what I said they would go look it up. I get tired of repeating myself.

GC

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You understand nothing about our God.
GC

I do. Your god is such an asshole that the angels that lived in paradise with him turned on him.

One third of them bought into Lucifer's lie, so they exercised their free will and got tossed. You see they believed that Lucifer could overthrow God, when that didn't happen they all got tossed and have a lake of fire waiting for them. Bad decisions lead to bad things. They committed the sin of self over obedience and Adam and Eve fail for the same. With the reasoning you posted above it seems you would jump from a bridge if others did the same to stay out of heaven.

GC

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@ Stimbo, I see you haven't gotten any farther along in life with others.

GC

Hey, I'm not the one with imaginary friends.

Perhaps for an encore, you might explain what all this has to do with anything I wrote.

Still just babbling aren't you, by the way I have no imaginary friends.

GC

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Hey, I'm not the one with imaginary friends.

Perhaps for an encore, you might explain what all this has to do with anything I wrote.

He like all theist say people who are burning in hell deserve to be there because either a they did not accept god or jesus. b or horrible people. c they are sinners and only sinned d. homosexuals. e. satanists. f. because its gods divine will of those people he loves to burn forever. g. they weren't real Christians.

By the way you respond, you are placing yourself into most of those categories. The one about God's desire to see people in hell is a lie, you'll see that nowhere in scripture. Get your facts straight and stop publishing lies.

GC