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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 7:57 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Why couldn't bible god change Hitler and other evil people so that they are peaceful, loving people just like he will the believers?
For that matter, why could 'god' stop Hitler beforehand?
Either, there is no god or he's a miserable prick.
He's mysterious. Don't judge him. Don't test him. Don't have doubts. He knows everything, you don't. This life is nothing compared to eternity.
The fucker`s got everything covered.
If it`s true that our species is alone in the universe then I`d have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 8:20 pm
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(November 18, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Piscinin Wrote: He's mysterious. Don't judge him. Don't test him. Don't have doubts. He knows everything, you don't. This life is nothing compared to eternity.
The fucker's minions got everything covered ... including the bills.
Edited for accuracy.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 8:27 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Piscinin Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: For that matter, why could 'god' stop Hitler beforehand?
Either, there is no god or he's a miserable prick.
He's mysterious. Don't judge him. Don't test him. Don't have doubts. He knows everything, you don't. This life is nothing compared to eternity.
The fucker`s got everything covered.
Fuck him.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 8:31 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 8:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Piscinin Wrote: He's mysterious. Don't judge him. Don't test him. Don't have doubts. He knows everything, you don't. This life is nothing compared to eternity.
The fucker`s got everything covered.
Fuck him.
Well, vacuum is not my thing. I prefer asian girls. 
If it`s true that our species is alone in the universe then I`d have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 9:46 pm
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(November 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Irrational Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: In the end it only matters what God thinks.
The problem is it seems to me that what you think is what God thinks.
A man without words you are.
GC
(November 18, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.
Unfortunately, he's absent.
Just because you fail to reach Him doesn't mean He's absent. Study scripture and you just might find out why you are having trouble getting an answer.
Quote:I gather then that you have no fucking clue how you come to believe what you claim to believe?
Through teaching and then confirming it through scripture guided by the Holy Spirit. Unlike you I was not brainwashed into what I believe, not in my personality.
Quote: How old are you, four or five? Aren't you too old for spoonfeeding? Aren't you worried that you might anger your god in your steadfast refusal to use the brain you allege he gave you?
I'm sure I'm older than you are and as far as spoon feeding you do not seem to be the nurturing type. I use my brain, why, do you believe that as long as I do not see things your way I'm not using my brain, judgmental isn't it.
Quote:How are you not being the selfsame robot you say that your god doesn't want?
I choose to stay in a relationship with God through Christ. I do not practice religion, living in a relationship is what Christianity is about, a relationship with God and the Church.
Quote:Look, I know you're not used to this thinking stuff, but I'm going to ask you again: how do you think that one entity can be split into three incorporations, remain unitary, and yet still feel the need to have conversations with himself?
Like I said you need to ask God how that is possible, He states it is and I believe Him, He has never given me a reason to doubt. I would imagine that being a supernatural God would allow Him to do so, don't you.
Quote:How do you come to the belief that Jesus was talking to himself on the cross when he clearly wasn't?
He wasn't He was talking to the Father, you having trouble following this don't feel alone no one else actually does.
Quote:I won't let go of this until you answer me. "I don't know, ask god" is not an answer, it's a chickenshit copout from a drone who hasn't even bothered to examine his own beliefs -- and I reject it.
I've examined my belief and continue to all the time, what I do not do is question it, why should I question something I know is true. You reject all you want to, it's no skin off my butt, it's you who is putting your eternal life in jeopardy. I'm trying to share with you, but what can I do if you want listen.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 10:45 pm
pretty much if i see my friends and family together ill be happy because at least i know some one or some people i know would be there.
a all loving god shouldn't punish people with hell that's not love. what i believe god for a lack of a better word doesn't love everyone.
but hell again is made up so i have nothing to worry about.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: Quote:[quote='Parkers Tan' pid='798928' dateline='1416342763']
Unfortunately, he's absent.
Just because you fail to reach Him doesn't mean He's absent. Study scripture and you just might find out why you are having trouble getting an answer.
. If you understand your beliefs. you should be able to answer some of these questions. Besides, many of us have already read the bible all the way through and that is why we aren't Christians.
Ironically, I have had an online discussion with a couple of Muslims who told me the same thing about their god. I just had to read their holy scripture and believe.
Actually, Christian are supposed to always give a polite answer to questions. 1 Peter 3:15
"But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"
I am not certain that dodging the question by telling people to read scripture is what Peter meant. There is nothing wrong with saying, "I just don't know."
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 11:38 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Irrational Wrote: The problem is it seems to me that what you think is what God thinks.
A man without words you are.
What do you mean? Going all Yoda on me now?
Seriously, though, if us being in eternal jeopardy is "no skin off your butt", then what is your motive in continuing to point out how we're all condemned to hell? The message has been received, so there is no need to keep going on about it.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 19, 2014 at 12:11 am
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The thing that makes me most sad is the fact that their search for an eternity in a fictional after-life is keeping them from helping us prolong this one.
I'm fairly certain that the human lifespan would have been made much longer by now through scientific advancements were people not so damned content with dying.
I mean, it's okay to be fine with death.
But what I'm talking about the ironic fact that theists are actually hoping wishfully for an eternal life. Efforts would be much more productive in the world that actually exists.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 19, 2014 at 1:23 am
Quote:what I do not do is question it
We're sure of that, G-C. The thought would never cross whatever miniscule mind you have.
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