MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)

[Free]

I haven't been holding my breath for the case or any proof. I decided well.

Pilate nailed him to the cross. He's dead and will stay that way.

I say this as a believer.

[LastPoet]

So, you are the 4th Best Christian™?

[dyresand]

I haven't been holding my breath for the case or any proof. I decided well.

Pilate nailed him to the cross. He's dead and will stay that way.

I say this as a believer.

[Esquilax]

[DeistPaladin]

Still can't quite grasp the concept, can you?

Nobody understand the Trinity. More honest Christian scholars will admit it's a puzzle that lies beyond human capabilities to understand.

Others will just parrot the line "one god in three separate persons" and pretend that this explains anything.

No one is saying that God and Jesus are "one being"....Jesus and the Father are two different beings, both of whom are the same GOD.

I'm belaboring this point just for fun:

"Two different beings" and "are the same being" is a contradiction.

Just apply the title of "God" to both the Father and Son (and the Holy Spirit), and there you have it.

So "God" is not a being but a title?

[Minimalist]

I haven't been holding my breath for the case or any proof. I decided well.

Pilate nailed him to the cross. He's dead and will stay that way.

I say this as a believer.

Sadly, the only guy alive and writing at the time, a jew himself, who actually did write a letter of complaint to an emperor in which he discussed Pilate's crimes doesn't know anything about that one.

Curious....although probably not to you.

[Free]

Pilate nailed him to the cross. He's dead and will stay that way.

I say this as a believer.

Sadly, the only guy alive and writing at the time, a jew himself, who actually did write a letter of complaint to an emperor in which he discussed Pilate's crimes doesn't know anything about that one.

Curious....although probably not to you.

You would be speaking of Philo of Alexandria. He was in no position to know anything about Jesus, since he was in Egypt at the time.

[Tonus]

Nobody understand the Trinity. More honest Christian scholars will admit it's a puzzle that lies beyond human capabilities to understand.

I think the current version exists because any explanations that allowed for a critical examination didn't hold up very well. So the version that cannot be understood works best. Which is a searing indictment of the whole mess.

I think that the "god as a title" thing can work if we treat it thusly: there can be many senators, but they are part of only one senate. Thus there are many, and there is one. I don't think that will be acceptable simply because it creates a structure that can be understood and therefore scrutinized. So I figure we'll continue to hear about the version that is beyond our understanding.

[abaris]

You would be speaking of Philo of Alexandria. He was in no position to know anything about Jesus, since he was in Egypt at the time.

Fact is, even if Jesus existed, he was a nobody to his contemporaries. If he had been in any way important as a trouble maker, we would know about it. There would be more than just a few accounts of dubious nature.

[Free]

You would be speaking of Philo of Alexandria. He was in no position to know anything about Jesus, since he was in Egypt at the time.

Fact is, even if Jesus existed, he was a nobody to his contemporaries. If he had been in any way important as a trouble maker, we would know about it. There would be more than just a few accounts of dubious nature.

He was "bigged up" by the Christians at the time. They turned a mere man- although a remarkable sage- into a god.

That's like a crime in my books.