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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm
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(December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am)chris(tnt)rhol Wrote: Has anyone on this forum given any thought as to the kind of evidence which would convince you that god exists?
Not to suggest I give it thought, but that's just about as easy as it gets: God. If someone has a god that they say hides, or a story that he showed up a while ago, talked to this other guy, but doesn't come 'round no more, well they shouldn't be surprised I think they don't have a god. :-)
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
A personal appearance.
A testable "miracle"
Angels appearing to the world and actually giving interviews and proving their abilities, instead of apparently appearing to a single loon somewhere.
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I've said it every time this inane question comes up, and I'll say it again.
God (who apparently knows who I am, what I believe, why I believe it, and all my thoughts, AND who wants me to believe in him) should know exactly what would be evidence for me.
I'm just waiting to actually see any evidence..
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm
I dropped a hammer on my foot once. I briefly believed in, and cursed Thor.
Jesus? Not so much.
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
From time to time Dyonysos demands certain actions from me and I happily comply.
The christian god, not so much. Maybe if some angels were to come down and blow Mozart's requiem from their butts, I would consider it a sign. But all around, of all the gods created by men, Yahweh is the most unbelievable one. Goes for Allah as well, of course, since it's Yahweh again, acting under a different franchise.
In literature, we would call him a Mary Sue.
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm
Hey! Has anyone given any thought to what kind of evidence would convince you Shrek is real?
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm)Beccs Wrote: A personal appearance.
A testable "miracle"
Angels appearing to the world and actually giving interviews and proving their abilities, instead of apparently appearing to a single loon somewhere.
Excellent point. Why is it that angels (and aliens) seem to spend their time appearing to people whom you wouldn't believe if they told you the sun was going to rise in the east, let alone that they were visited by an angel?
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 7:32 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am)chris(tnt)rhol Wrote: Hello all. First time on this forum, would love to discuss atheism.
Has anyone on this forum given any thought as to the kind of evidence which would convince you that god exists?
No, I've never, ever considered such things. I don't know how it's escaped my attention in my thirty-four years as an atheist.
Thank you for bringing this deficiency to my attention, I'll get to work on it right away.
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 7:36 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm)TreeSapNest Wrote: Hey! Has anyone given any thought to what kind of evidence would convince you Shrek is real?
One more sequel.
*shudder*
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RE: the case against the case against god
December 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm
Good God!
You know, when I decided to become an atheist, (read: deny God), I just said "I am going to blindly follow the Hitchens/Harris/Dawkins triumvirate" and do everything they tell me to do. I didn't even think about what would convince me that god(s) exist. It really just did it on a whim.
Thanks, OP, what a profound thing for me to have overlooked!
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