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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 8, 2014 at 7:00 pm
(December 8, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: The analysis of five presidential voting outcomes, between 1960 and 2000, showed that southern counties with KKK activity in the 1960s had a statistically significant increase in Republican voting compared to counties with no established KKK chapter
It does not have to be "all." It merely has to be a sufficiently large enough sample to tilt the election which is what the study is saying.
There are, as I said, decisions that are being made high up on the chain that deserve inspection. Some of these decisions to foment strife (a.k.a. "wedge issues" which the GOP can't deny using) might actually be made cynically by people who aren't technically bigoted themselves but not against using it to fire up a rabble during election time.
The old saying is that religion is regarded by the wise as false, by the masses as true and by the rulers as ...useful.
The inside story is that Rove didn't believe any of this fundy crap and many insiders in the W Bush administration laughed at the fundies behind their backs. But they certainly didn't mind playing the role in public and doing what they had to in order to fire up their base.
In no small way, I actually find this behavior more morally reprehensible than the bigotry perpetrated by the true believer. An Archie Bunker style bigot, whatever else you may say about him, is ignorant and perhaps just a product of his upbringing. A sociopath who knows better, isn't a true believer but plays all the Archie Bunkers out there for political gain has no such excuse.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 8, 2014 at 8:06 pm
(December 5, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: More fuel for the partisan shit-fire.
Definitely something I can easily be drawn into. But when push comes to shove I'm always going to go with the much less bad evil.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 8, 2014 at 8:12 pm
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(December 8, 2014 at 6:35 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (December 8, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: KKKers may well all be Republicans. That doesn't mean that all Republicans are KKKers. Drawing conclusions about all Republicans doesn't seem justified.
I hope that no one is seriously suggesting otherwise.
That was certainly the impression Mini gave with his post, which was the object of my reply. Saying that all Republicans are racists on the basis of a study of KKK-influenced counties is obviously fallacious, and I'm surprised I have to explain my objection.
Quote:RE: Are Republicans racist???
(December 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yes, they are racist shitballs. And now we have a study telling us why.
Clearly overstepping the evidence in order to ad hom those who don't share his political views.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 8, 2014 at 8:17 pm
I assume we're only speaking of white racists?
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 8, 2014 at 8:59 pm
(December 7, 2014 at 9:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:although he now seems like a moderate in comparison to the GOP today
Modern republicunts would throw Reagan and Goldwater out of their party.
Both were not crazy enough.
Reagan for Byrd sounds like a fair trade.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 9, 2014 at 5:11 am
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(December 8, 2014 at 2:25 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Anytime either ATheist or the "both sides" faux-centrists want to bring me a logical argument backed by the data, I'm all ears.
Anytime now.
This is your proof of racism in the Republican party? This is your logical argument?
Quote:Yes, the Republican Party really is soaking in racism. It was hidden before 2008 but since the election of Obama, it's all come bubbling to the surface, producing a stink so pungent that it astounds me that so many people either can't or pretend not to smell it.
Consider:
Never before in our nation's history has any president been heckled during a SOTU address by a sitting member of Congress, a Congressman who wasn't either arrested or pressured to resign but instead hailed as a hero.
Never before in our nation's history has any president been forced to not only address a crackpot conspiracy theory but comply with it's demands by producing his birth certificate to try to (unsuccessfully) put it to rest.
Never before in our nation's history has a non-scandal like Benghazi survived seven Congressional investigations proving absolutely nothing only to have that faux-scandal be continuously circulated and brought up as a possible impeachment pretext.
Never before in our nation's history has every bill and procedure in the Senate been filibustered as a deliberate effort to gum up the works to sabotage the country while and because a certain president was in office.
Never before in our nation's history has such a record low number of bills been passed by the House of Representatives, also in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the country.
Never before in our nation's history has the Congress used the shutdown so casually as a political sabotage tactic. We're about to shut down again. It's become part of life now.
"No, it's not racism. It's because of Obama's radical policies!" the Republicans protest.
Bullshit.
Yeah, Bullshit. All this proves is that you're a goofball conspiracy theorist who imagines a racial motive behind every thought and action that doesn't agree with you. You're a naive pompous ass bigot who can't tolerate any disagreement with your positions. Nothing in your quote proves a racial motive. Opposing barack obama's policies doesn't equate to racism.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 9, 2014 at 9:31 am
(December 9, 2014 at 5:11 am)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, Bullshit. All this proves is that you're a goofball conspiracy theorist who imagines a racial motive behind every thought and action that doesn't agree with you. Summary: "Nuh uh uh"
Quote:You're a naive pompous ass bigot who can't tolerate any disagreement with your positions.
Summary: "You big meanie"
Quote:Nothing in your quote proves a racial motive. Opposing barack obama's policies doesn't equate to racism.
Summary: "Did nooooooot"
A brilliant rebuttal as always. Keep them coming.
You must have worked at The Argument Clinic.
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 9, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(December 7, 2014 at 7:48 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Haha, you are so biased sometimes it's crazy. Bush didn't have to deal with 9/11 truthers?
No, he didn't. I daresay he never even acknowledged that they were a thing, and certainly, they never did anything except snipe far away, where most people weren't even aware they existed. 9/11 truthing wasn't a hundredth as mainstream as the birth certificate truthers were, nor was it motivated by a racial hatred for the target.
Quote:When was Obama blamed for a hurricane?
Louisiana Republicans blame Obama more than Bush for Katrina. In 2013.
How are you going to even pretend that Republicans don't exercise every shred of their imaginations to find something upon which to blame Obama?
How about ebola, flu, or the great Twinkie shortage of 2012? I mean, we both know I could fill a novel with other examples.
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Who the hell even watches MSNBC?
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 9, 2014 at 4:33 pm
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Obama "released" his birth certificate the same week he killed Osama bin laden.
Which event did FOX news pay more attention too?
Leta go back even further too the terrorist fist jab Barack gave Michelle when he was elected. You have too be a real inbred whiter than white-out person or "multinational news conglomerate" too confuse a fist bump for a terrorist secret signal, maybe they covered it this way because Roger ailes decreed in one of his daily memos about how fox will present the news and exactly what stories will be talked about something no other news channel does
but then fox news can't be called a "news" program merely a propaganda tool for the racist Republicans
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RE: Are Republicans racist???
December 9, 2014 at 4:37 pm
(December 9, 2014 at 4:33 pm)simplemoss Wrote: but then fox news can't be called a "news" program merely a propaganda tool for the Republican
That's why I like the term Fox Noise.
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