Catholic miracles

[Heywood]

These constants are only universal to the space they apply. In a different space the value of these constants may be different. You basically claimed that these constants are universal to all spaces and there is no reason whatsoever to believe your claim to be true.

"universal to the space they apply" is an oxymoron. I can't make headsor tails what that means. What different space?

If our world is simulated, then what we call space is also simulated. The values of ε0 or μ0 in the simulated space may not be the same as the values of ε0 or μ0 in the space in which the platform which runs the simulation exists. In fact I would be outright surprised if they were the same.

[Surgenator]

"universal to the space they apply" is an oxymoron. I can't make headsor tails what that means. What different space?

If our world is simulated, then what we call space is also simulated. The values of ε0 or μ0 in the simulated space may not be the same as the values of ε0 or μ0 in the space in which the platform which runs the simulation exists. In fact I would be outright surprised if they were the same.

First read this to understand whay physicist mean when they say our holographic universe. Then we talk.

Perhaps the most powerful duality in physics is known as the holographic principle. This principle is often misrepresented as the idea that the universe is actually a hologram, but it is more accurate to say there is a duality between a volume of space and the surface enclosing that volume. The holographic principle states that all the information contained within a region of space can be determined by the information on the surface containing it.

[Heywood]

If our world is simulated, then what we call space is also simulated. The values of ε0 or μ0 in the simulated space may not be the same as the values of ε0 or μ0 in the space in which the platform which runs the simulation exists. In fact I would be outright surprised if they were the same.

First read this to understand whay physicist mean when they say our holographic universe. Then we talk.

Perhaps the most powerful duality in physics is known as the holographic principle. This principle is often misrepresented as the idea that the universe is actually a hologram, but it is more accurate to say there is a duality between a volume of space and the surface enclosing that volume. The holographic principle states that all the information contained within a region of space can be determined by the information on the surface containing it.

Okay I read it. Interesting read.....and I learnt a new word...widdershins.

What is your point.

[Jenny A]

Okay I read it. Interesting read.....and I learnt a new word...widdershins.

Oh no. Widdershins is a very old word and so much more fun to say than counterclockwise.

[dyresand]

The only miracle the catholic church would get if its members and clergy's stop raping little boys.

[Surgenator]

First read this to understand whay physicist mean when they say our holographic universe. Then we talk.

Okay I read it. Interesting read.....and I learnt a new word...widdershins.

What is your point.

I wanted people to avoid assuming that the holographic universe theory literally means the universe is a hologram. As the article stated, if the holographic theory is true, then it only introduces a duality like the particle-wave duality. It doesn't mean the universe is a hologram. It also doesn't say the universe is not a hologram. Anybody claiming the universe is a hologram cannot point to this theory as proof. The holograph theory, at best, suggest the universe is a hologram.

[robvalue]

Heywood, you seem to be assuming that the parent universe operates in pretty much the same way as ours. There's no reason to think that. It could be anything, and they've just happened to run a bizarre simulation like our reality. The "speed of light" might not even be a concept that makes sense in their reality.

[GrandizerII]

5. Miracle. --- Repeated clinical tests, minimum.

What we tend to get? Credulous eyewitnesses to things a magician might do on stage usually told third hand four centuries ago.

If a miracle becomes repeatable it ceases to be a miracle but rather an artifact of nature.

I disagree. A miracle is some supernatural event that demands a violation of the laws of nature regardless of whether it happens repeatedly or not.

[robvalue]

Agreed. The fact that they are always one-off, untested eye witness accounts makes them highly suspect. Even more so if someone claims to know why they happened.

[Heywood]

Heywood, you seem to be assuming that the parent universe operates in pretty much the same way as ours. There's no reason to think that. It could be anything, and they've just happened to run a bizarre simulation like our reality. The "speed of light" might not even be a concept that makes sense in their reality.

It is easier to make my point if we assume the simulation is similar to the reality which contains the platform that runs the simulation. But yes, you are correct, the simulation can be vastly different from the reality. I would think there would still be a fundamental limit on how fast information can propagate, however.