Ark Sunk

[Jackalope]

The real travesty here is that I'm never going to get to bid on this thing in a firesale.

What would you do with it? Burn it in place? I would.

[abaris]

What would you do with it? Burn it in place? I would.

Would make for a nice bonfire.

[Ryantology]

But ticket sales do....and if this ark is built, even some atheists will go visit it out of curiosity just like they have with the creation museum.

For Hamm and his ilk, there is an upside to this happening. Pump it up some more...keep talking about....I'm sure Hamm loves it that you are helping to line his pockets.

Thanks to the state finally doing the right thing and opting not to fund this idiotic project, now none of my money will be lining his pocket.

If he wants to build this monument to ignorance and ego, he's more than welcome to do so, without using scarce tax dollars in a state that could not find a worse way to use them.

[Heywood]

Thanks to the state finally doing the right thing and opting not to fund this idiotic project, now none of my money will be lining his pocket.

If he wants to build this monument to ignorance and ego, he's more than welcome to do so, without using scarce tax dollars in a state that could not find a worse way to use them.

From what I understand the tax credits are in the form of a rebate. For instance suppose the ark park remits 1 million dollars in sales tax to the state, the state rebates back to the park $250,000 or some scheme like that. This isn't a case of the state handing out money to get the thing built. This is a case of the state effectively lowering its tax rate for this park so that the business plan becomes more tenable in the hope that it gets built. If this thing doesn't get built because the state decided not to issue these credits....the action actually costs the state sales tax revenue. Since sales tax revenue is your money(that seems to be your implied claim).....now you might end up with less of it.

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If if were possible for Noah, even with the help of his sons, and all their perplexed neighbors to have built such a thing, then Ham and a few of his buddies should be able to build the ark in couple weekends with about ten grand. Oh, and they can round up real animals and house them just like Noah too. What's the problem? If Noah could do it with bronze age tools in a largely unforested part of the world than Ham should have even less trouble. . . . . Oh. . . wait. . . .

Noah didn't have to deal with OSHA requirements, environmental studies, building permits, labor unions, workers comp insurance, etc.

[Minimalist]

He didn't have to deal with reality either.

[Jenny A]

From what I understand the tax credits are in the form of a rebate. For instance suppose the ark park remits 1 million dollars in sales tax to the state, the state rebates back to the park $250,000 or some scheme like that. This isn't a case of the state handing out money to get the thing built. This is a case of the state effectively lowering its tax rate for this park so that the business plan becomes more tenable in the hope that it gets built. If this thing doesn't get built because the state decided not to issue these credits....the action actually costs the state sales tax revenue.

Making a business cheaper by reducing it's taxes is a subsidy whether it's given at the front end or the back end.

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Noah didn't have to deal with OSHA requirements, environmental studies, building permits, labor unions, workers comp insurance, etc.

Ha Ha Ha. Why would he need employees? Noah did it all himself I don't think you need a building permit for a boat either come to think of it. But I understand why he's not building it on water. Given the least wind, it would sink. It's not a sea worthy design.

[Heywood]

From what I understand the tax credits are in the form of a rebate. For instance suppose the ark park remits 1 million dollars in sales tax to the state, the state rebates back to the park $250,000 or some scheme like that. This isn't a case of the state handing out money to get the thing built. This is a case of the state effectively lowering its tax rate for this park so that the business plan becomes more tenable in the hope that it gets built. If this thing doesn't get built because the state decided not to issue these credits....the action actually costs the state sales tax revenue.

Making a business cheaper by reducing it's taxes is a subsidy whether it's given at the front end or the back end.

It doesn't make the cost of running the business any cheaper. The business expenses would be the same with or without these credits. What it does do is increase the net margin making the business more tenable. The only reason these credits were being promised in the first place was so that the thing would be built and the state would collect lots of sales tax revenue from it. This wasn't a subsidy, it was an incentive.

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Noah didn't have to deal with OSHA requirements, environmental studies, building permits, labor unions, workers comp insurance, etc.

Ha Ha Ha. Why would he need employees? Noah did it all himself I don't think you need a building permit for a boat either come to think of it. But I understand why he's not building it on water. Given the least wind, it would sink. It's not a sea worthy design.

Hamm is not acutally building a boat. He is building a building that is going to be called a boat.

Also I forgets minimum wage....Noah didn't have to worry about paying a minimum wage either.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...ingle.html

Translation: There aren't enough creatard assholes willing to go to fucking Kentucky to support these cathedrals to supidity.

Better buy your tickets while you can. I'm sure you want to see an episode or two of The Flintstones.

Hamm's business is tanking because he doesn't know how to run a theme park. Theme parks need new rides, shows, and attractions every year or attendance begins to crumble.

[Tonus]

Making a business cheaper by reducing it's taxes is a subsidy whether it's given at the front end or the back end.

I have no doubt that the government would be willing to give it to him on the back end, but Ken might not be comfortable with it.

[Heywood]

I was a little curious so I visited the answering genesis website. They have a little article about Kentucky's decision.

https://answersingenesis.org/ministry-ne...encounter/

Sounds like they are gearing up to sue the state. They might have a case on their hands.

Here is the Kentucky law they cite:
http://kchr.ky.gov/nr/rdonlyres/133dda5d.../0/090.pdf

Here is Title VII they cite:

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/titlevii.cfm

This subchapter shall not apply to an employer with respect to the employment of aliens outside any State, or to a religious corporation, association, educational institution, or society with respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work connected with the carrying on by such corporation, association, educational institution, or society of its activities.

I imagine the issue they will argue is that the state wrongfully discriminated against them by refusing to allow them to engage in this sales tax rebate program because they are a religious organization exercising their rights as a religious organization to prefer to hire people of their religion.

[Ryantology]

From what I understand the tax credits are in the form of a rebate. For instance suppose the ark park remits 1 million dollars in sales tax to the state, the state rebates back to the park $250,000 or some scheme like that. This isn't a case of the state handing out money to get the thing built. This is a case of the state effectively lowering its tax rate for this park so that the business plan becomes more tenable in the hope that it gets built. If this thing doesn't get built because the state decided not to issue these credits....the action actually costs the state sales tax revenue. Since sales tax revenue is your money(that seems to be your implied claim).....now you might end up with less of it.

I don't really care if it's a rebate or a subsidy. Kentucky is full of impoverished people. Give them the rebates, or use what would be the rebate to go towards education or food and housing assistance subsidies. If the people who want this display of deep-seated religious insecurity constructed really want it, every penny should come entirely out of their own pockets, with no rebates or incentives of any kind from the government. After all, most of the people who have a vested interest in this are surely the same sort of people who think that the poor literally steal food stamps directly out of their bank accounts.