The less you attend church the more likly you are willing to support douch baggery

[Jackalope]

Because even though you pretend to stand against all of this, you still eat, live, love, shave and sh*t by the freedom EIT's provide Douche Bag!

Hey, douchebag, I served six years in the military, including through the first gulf war. I oppose torture, euphemistically referred to as EIT.

You wanna tell me how I got my freedom for free too?

[Nope]

Am I getting this right? Is Drich trying to claim moral superiority over non believers because... he has fewer morals?

I am pretty certain that is what he is saying

[Spooky]

Because even though you pretend to stand against all of this, you still eat, live, love, shave and sh*t by the freedom EIT's provide Douche Bag!

Hey, douchebag, I served six years in the military, including through the first gulf war. I oppose torture, euphemistically referred to as EIT.

You wanna tell me how I got my freedom for free too?

Indeed. I did eight years. With a tour in Afghanistan.

Fuckwit.

[Faith No More]

Am I getting this right? Is Drich trying to claim moral superiority over non believers because... he has fewer morals?

You actually read his drivel beyond the OP?

The only time I read through his bullshit is when I want an education in illogical justification.

[Strider]

do you see how quickly this particular EIT put people at the end of their thresh hold for discomfort?
The 'safe words' here would be akin to the terrorist info we would be looking for in a real situation. If a 'safe word' was given with in a minute how much longer do you think a terrorist could hold out?

Can you not understand that a person would say anything to make his torturer stop? Why in the hell do you think that information obtained under extreme duress would be reliable?

I am not going to post a video of our our people are treated/beheaded by members of the same/similar goup.

Good. Please don't. Those barbaric actions you referenced are completely unacceptable in every way, shape, and form, but just because they conduct themselves as inhuman scum doesn't mean that we have to resort to the same. We (the United States) are better than that, and I don't want torture committed in my name.

What you people don't seem to understand is that we would not EIT every man woman or child, just those in a position to tell us of comming attacks, while on the other hand our enemy would behead as many of us as it would take to break the will of our remaining nation to not only submit to their rule, but to live underthem.

If me and the majority of the country says Hell, No! then rest assured we will make room for people like you to reap the benfits of the world we provide, and still allow you to ride your moral high horse... Just know from time to time a few of us will call you on your hyprocrisy.

Again, you're assuming that the information obtained under these circumstances is beneficial. An extremely in-depth senate report says otherwise, even if you disagree with it. And my moral high horse? Dude, torture is fucking wrong under any and all circumstances.

Why? Because even though you pretend to stand against all of this, you still eat, live, love, shave and sh*t by the freedom EIT's provide Douche Bag!

What an ignorant claim. Enhanced interrogation doesn't provide freedom. Even if it did provide reliable intel (and it doesn't), it is not equivalent with freedom.

Oh, and fuck you for calling me a douche bag.

[Faith No More]

Also, if I was the forum police, I would cite Drich for improper quotation usage.

[Mister Agenda]

I believe I used the term douch bags, and I don't think all of them are, just the self righteous among you.. (The judgy types who feel a constant need to try and make themselves look better than those who seek redemption)

There's no reason why someone who 'seeks redemption' shouldn't be as well-behaved as someone who doesn't.

[rexbeccarox]

Am I getting this right? Is Drich trying to claim moral superiority over non believers because... he has fewer morals?

Quite the oppsite infact.

Because I do not consider myself to be 'moral' by the standard of man I get to be honest with myself, about the impact my life has on the world at large. I don't have to pretend that i do not live a life provided by slavery. i do not pretend I do not enjoy the freedom EIT's has provided me, I do not pretend that I am something I am not.

Because I can honestly look at my short commings and identify them I can then inturn seek redemption. The other big thing that the 'moral' can not do. Because if one is 'moral' why would he need redemption?

How is that at all the "oppsite" of what I said?

[Nope]

Drich which of our freedoms were protected by EIT?

[abaris]

This is from Fox news of all sources. Even they can't spin the "enhanced interrogation" issue otherwise known as torture into something useful. The title says it all:

Why CIA interrogations report matters: Torture doesn't work and Americans need to know

The executive summary of the report, written after reviewing hundreds of thousands of the CIA’s internal documents, shows that torture was more brutal and much less fruitful than the CIA claimed. In fact, the committee concluded that all the claims about the value of intelligence gained from “enhanced” interrogation—including the claim that it helped the U.S. find Usama bin Laden—are overstated or just plain false.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/12/0...s-need-to/

One of many many sources carrying the same claim. A claim that has been known to be true since the age of enlightenment when people actually started to think for themselves. A recommended ability.