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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 9:50 pm
(December 23, 2014 at 3:17 am)Sonny Wrote: Hi guys,
there is one small 'oops' about Atheism.
that is the DEFINITION of the WORD GOD.
In order to not believe in something you must first have a CONCEPT of what EXACTLY that is.
So how do we find out what the word God means?
Do we ask a person that bases their belief off of the hearsay of others?
Or perhaps look at what the AUTHOR of the TEXT in question says about the word...
Jeremiah 23:23-24
“Am I a God who is near,” declares the LORD, “And not a God far off? “Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?” declares the LORD “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?”
Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Watching the evil and the good.
Acts 17:27-28
that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’
Zephaniah 3:17
“The LORD your God is in your midst, A victorious warrior He will exult over you with joy, He will be quiet in His love, He will rejoice over you with shouts of joy.
1 Corinthians 14:25
the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.
Revelation 5:13
And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”
2 Chronicles 2:6
“But who is able to build a house for Him, for the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him? So who am I, that I should build a house for Him, except to burn incense before Him?
get it?
God is EVERYWHERE because God is EVERYTHING.
maybe this will help the over thinking problem:
In Genesis 1 we are told 'IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH'
Here is the 'oops' part
GOD EXISTED BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH! because GOD IS THE UNIVERSE WE ALL LIVE INSIDE OF.
He THEN made the Heavens and the Earth ALL STILL PART OF HIM, IN HIM, OF HIM, HIS BODY! aka MATTER.
Then he said 'Let there be light' and the UNION of LIGHT (fire- the sperm of the Universe) and MATTER (The WOMB of the UNIVERSE) gave birth to the SON (The LIFE of The Universe)
Jesus said, 'I and the FATHER are ONE' and they nailed him to a tree for it.
He said, "Take eat, this is my BODY" (because ALL matter is God's body and we THANK HIM FOR IT)
He said, "Take drink, this is my BLOOD" (because all liquids are like God's blood- said in the hopes maybe now the poorly educated farmers he was speaking to will understand. And we THANK HIM FOR IT.)
God IS THE UNIVERSE. ALL OF IT INCLUDING WHATEVER CREATED IT. Anthropomorphized as GOD.
The only valid argument against God is did we Anthropomorphize something that is dead? or something that is actually living?
I would say, "Go look out your window" lol
So please before you claim that REALITY is imaginary maybe learn what a metaphor is and then CHECK YOUR DEFINITIONS WITH THE AUTHOR INSTEAD OF THE CRAZY LADY DOWN THE STREET!
God is ALL.
A CONCEPT.
The LIFE of ALL LIFE.
We are GRATEFUL to HIM FOR IT.
Get it?
try looking for God with LOVE in your heart instead of CONTEMPT lol
And the Trees of the Fields Shall Clap Their Hands!
happy to elaborate or answer any questions or to provide literally hundreds of more quotes from religious texts around the world and throughout history that back up the DEFINITION of the WORD GOD.
As defined by the AUTHORS as opposed to those who MISUNDERSTOOD THEM.
Ooops ^^
SFB
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(December 23, 2014 at 3:17 am)Sonny Wrote: Hi guys,
there is one small 'oops' about Atheism.
that is the DEFINITION of the WORD GOD.
In order to not believe in something you must first have a CONCEPT of what EXACTLY that is.
So how do we find out what the word God means?
Do we ask a person that bases their belief off of the hearsay of others?
Or perhaps look at what the AUTHOR of the TEXT in question says about the word...
Jeremiah 23:23-24
“Am I a God who is near,” declares the LORD, “And not a God far off? “Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?” declares the LORD “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?”
Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Watching the evil and the good.
Acts 17:27-28
that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’
Zephaniah 3:17
“The LORD your God is in your midst, A victorious warrior He will exult over you with joy, He will be quiet in His love, He will rejoice over you with shouts of joy.
1 Corinthians 14:25
the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.
Revelation 5:13
And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”
2 Chronicles 2:6
“But who is able to build a house for Him, for the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him? So who am I, that I should build a house for Him, except to burn incense before Him?
get it?
God is EVERYWHERE because God is EVERYTHING.
maybe this will help the over thinking problem:
In Genesis 1 we are told 'IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH'
Here is the 'oops' part
GOD EXISTED BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH! because GOD IS THE UNIVERSE WE ALL LIVE INSIDE OF.
He THEN made the Heavens and the Earth ALL STILL PART OF HIM, IN HIM, OF HIM, HIS BODY! aka MATTER.
Then he said 'Let there be light' and the UNION of LIGHT (fire- the sperm of the Universe) and MATTER (The WOMB of the UNIVERSE) gave birth to the SON (The LIFE of The Universe)
Jesus said, 'I and the FATHER are ONE' and they nailed him to a tree for it.
He said, "Take eat, this is my BODY" (because ALL matter is God's body and we THANK HIM FOR IT)
He said, "Take drink, this is my BLOOD" (because all liquids are like God's blood- said in the hopes maybe now the poorly educated farmers he was speaking to will understand. And we THANK HIM FOR IT.)
God IS THE UNIVERSE. ALL OF IT INCLUDING WHATEVER CREATED IT. Anthropomorphized as GOD.
The only valid argument against God is did we Anthropomorphize something that is dead? or something that is actually living?
I would say, "Go look out your window" lol
So please before you claim that REALITY is imaginary maybe learn what a metaphor is and then CHECK YOUR DEFINITIONS WITH THE AUTHOR INSTEAD OF THE CRAZY LADY DOWN THE STREET!
God is ALL.
A CONCEPT.
The LIFE of ALL LIFE.
We are GRATEFUL to HIM FOR IT.
Get it?
try looking for God with LOVE in your heart instead of CONTEMPT lol
And the Trees of the Fields Shall Clap Their Hands!
happy to elaborate or answer any questions or to provide literally hundreds of more quotes from religious texts around the world and throughout history that back up the DEFINITION of the WORD GOD.
As defined by the AUTHORS as opposed to those who MISUNDERSTOOD THEM.
Ooops ^^
Nope Nope Nope Nope No
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm
The AUTHORS of the books didn't seem to be able to convey their thinking well enough to keep Christianity from dividing into thousands of denominations, and killing each other over how to interpret it. The AUTHORS aren't very helpful when we don't have any original writings anyway. Even the dead sea scrolls aren't the originals. Not that the AUTHORS of one holy book are any more informed than the AUTHORS of other holy books talking about other gods.
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm
(December 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The AUTHORS of the books didn't seem to be able to convey their thinking well enough to keep Christianity from dividing into thousands of denominations, and killing each other over how to interpret it. The AUTHORS aren't very helpful when we don't have any original writings anyway. Even the dead sea scrolls aren't the originals. Not that the AUTHORS of one holy book are any more informed than the AUTHORS of other holy books talking about other gods.
Paul was really misinformed.
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 10:51 pm
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Telling people to not let the right hand know what the left hand is doing might not have been a good idea in the long run.
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 11:37 pm
I haven't checked the Staff thread, was DMB a sock for H_M?
That had been my guess.
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 11:55 pm
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 30, 2014 at 2:01 am
Whoa H_M was banned? How'd I miss that? Oh that's right, I lost interest in him when he set himself on repeat.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 30, 2014 at 2:56 am
(December 30, 2014 at 2:01 am)Exian Wrote: Whoa H_M was banned? How'd I miss that? Oh that's right, I lost interest in him when he set himself on repeat.
He was being warned he didn't listen or read and gotten banned about a few weeks ago.
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 30, 2014 at 3:41 am
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2014 at 3:50 am by StillStanding.)
good grief children i am not a little kid and I am not without EXTENSIVE resources. If you want to play ban the person you disagree with to preserve the hollow shell of a concept you are spreading then I strongly suggest you do not OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. A term that will haunt you once you own your own business for very long enough hahaha
i see from other threads that you guys do tend to ban those that you disagree with for technicalities while ignoring the curt and frankly rude and non intellectual responses of your 'regulars'.
All worrying am I this guy or that guy while ignoring the words...
You cannot silence God by banning people that disagree with you on your PUBLIC FORUM.
Try me.
I have mad good Jewish lawyers, never in over 30 years lost a case, good luck playing with them lol and I have choads more money than you guys all combined, keep at it and find out. You are showing a pattern of prejudice against Christians (freedom of religion is protected) in your banning on this site. Far ruder comments and accusations are made by members that are Atheists that go unbanned. you let Atheist posters get away with technicalities that you enforce on Christians and other beliefs you oppose.
That is a thing you can be sued for kiddos.
i suggest using logic, civility, and discourse, as a form of rebuttal as opposed to FORCE and DISCRIMINATION.
ban this and I will be back in 5 minutes. I know how to use a computer derps...
try COMMUNICATING.
Negotiating.
like CIVIL people.
Or I promise I will teach you what open to the public means.
a good way to think of it is that yeah you can refuse service to anyone. But not because they have a cross around their neck.
You will then say it is technicalities, which would then have to be applied FAIRLY to all. That would mean you have a load of non-etiquette following atheist to ban as well for the same technicalities. This ascertained from just a BRIEF look at your website.
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