The second law of thermodynamics and evolution

[Chas]

-I've read that the law contradicts the evolution
-so i hope some one explain it for me
-i hope someone share links that explain it ‎ ‏
-is there any videos about the second law of thermodynamics and evolution

You need to read a science book. Please.

[Lemonvariable72]

-I've read that the law contradicts the evolution
-so i hope some one explain it for me
-i hope someone share links that explain it ‎ ‏
-is there any videos about the second law of thermodynamics and evolution

Except all four laws deal directly with closed systems, which the earth is not due to energy being constantly input from the sun. Furthernore if you put stock on those laws that means christianity is also false because the creation account violates the 1st law of thermodynamics.

[pocaracas]

Well, you already got the huge fireball in the sky that supplies all (but a tiny fraction) the energy that get's used on this planet.

Now, for some fancier stuff!
A single organism must survive long enough to reproduce, in order for evolution to occur, right?
For survival, that organism requires some sort of fuel, right? Allow me to commit a tiny fallacy by using humans as an example - you eat a lot throughout your life, right? more than you weigh, right?
And, typically, the used fuel becomes waste material, right? Tons of it in one lifetime...

So, one single organism requires far, far, far more energy to keep itself running, than it uses evolving its species.

Multiply that by the millions and millions and billions of individuals required for evolution to manifest itself.

Of course, all that energy, ultimately, comes from the sun.... and that's all that's required to debunk the idiotic creationist mantra of evolution going against the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

[professor]

Well you had 4 pages of psudo science to mull thru.

What they did not tell you is without a CODE of DIRECTION within all living things, the energy from the sun does what it does to your plastic dashboard and other things.
Cars are a good example. Have you got one?
Things tend to disintegrate over time.
Left to themselves, they do that, you fight the results of entropy all your life.
But no, everything you see is wrong.Thy eyes deceiveth thyself, sayeth the experts.

[Chas]

Well you had 4 pages of psudo science to mull thru.

What they did not tell you is without a CODE of DIRECTION within all living things, the energy from the sun does what it does to your plastic dashboard and other things.
Cars are a good example. Have you got one?
Things tend to disintegrate over time.
Left to themselves, they do that, you fight the results of entropy all your life.
But no, everything you see is wrong.Thy eyes deceiveth thyself, sayeth the experts.

You need to read a science book; your ignorance and misunderstanding are appalling.

[Esquilax]

Well you had 4 pages of psudo science to mull thru.

What they did not tell you is without a CODE of DIRECTION within all living things, the energy from the sun does what it does to your plastic dashboard and other things.

This is breathtakingly stupid; heat energy is still energy, regardless of the effects of its initial effect upon impacting the planet. Therefore, regardless of your ignorant little opinions, the Earth is not a closed system as understood by thermodynamics, and therefore the second law is not applicable to it:



As to your alleged "CODE of DIRECTION," can you provide a single iota of evidence for this and its necessity, or just more flawed comparisons to cars and other things that aren't in any way biological?

Cars are a good example. Have you got one?
Things tend to disintegrate over time.
Left to themselves, they do that, you fight the results of entropy all your life.
But no, everything you see is wrong.Thy eyes deceiveth thyself, sayeth the experts.

Of course entropy is happening, but that fact alone doesn't preclude the development of life any more than temperatures being cold precludes the possibility of a slight increase in heat. Entropy is a thing, but there's still energy circulating now; aside from your fiat assertion that entropy necessarily makes natural life impossible, do you have any evidence to back it up?

[Alex K]

Well you had 4 pages of psudo science to mull thru.

Oh Jeez, here it comes - the real science

What they did not tell you is without a CODE of DIRECTION within all living things, the energy from the sun does what it does to your plastic dashboard and other things.
Cars are a good example. Have you got one?
Things tend to disintegrate over time.

I'm confused, prof. Life is an obvious counter example to your assertion. Are you claiming that life violates the laws of physics? Because there's no evidence for that...
This CODE OF DIRECTION is just something you made up. For example, planets without life which are shone on by the sun have this ever changing weather pattern like storms coming and going - because entropy

Left to themselves, they do that, you fight the results of entropy all your life.
But no, everything you see is wrong.Thy eyes deceiveth thyself, sayeth the experts.

[Kulthenius]

-I've read that the law contradicts the evolution
-so i hope some one explain it for me
-i hope someone share links that explain it ‎ ‏
-is there any videos about the second law of thermodynamics and evolution

look up Stephen England from M.I.T., just started another post about it, you might find it interesting

[ManMachine]

-I've read that the law contradicts the evolution
-so i hope some one explain it for me
-i hope someone share links that explain it ‎ ‏
-is there any videos about the second law of thermodynamics and evolution

Simple.

Second law of thermodynamics (simple version) - the entropy of an isolated system never decreases; such a system will spontaneously evolve toward thermodynamic equilibrium, the configuration with maximum entropy. However, systems that are not isolated may decrease in entropy, provided they increase the entropy of their environment by at least that same amount. ('entropy' is the number of way that a thermodynamic system can be arranged, it is generally considered to be a measure of disorder).

In the most simple but obvious terms, the thermodynamic systems that life is made from are not isolated.

It's not hard to understand.

MM

[Lemonvariable72]

Has the op actually responded to, well anything yet?