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To Christians...Theocracy?
#21
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm)professor Wrote: There has never been a real theocracy.
I guess then, that I do not understand what a theocracy is. Could you elaborate for me, please.
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-- Superintendent Chalmers

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#22
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
A real theocracy would be God running things.
Not someone who merely claims to dictate what God wants.
The latter give you a dictator.
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#23
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 9:32 pm)professor Wrote: A real theocracy would be God running things.
Not someone who merely claims to dictate what God wants.
The latter give you a dictator.

Preachers do that all the time. They dictate from the bible what god wants. Cool Shades
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#24
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
Now all you need is to find a 'god.'

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And hope you're right.
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#25
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 9:32 pm)professor Wrote: A real theocracy would be God running things.
Not someone who merely claims to dictate what God wants.
The latter give you a dictator.
the·oc·ra·cy noun \thē-ˈä-krə-sē\

1: a form of government in which a country is ruled by religious leaders
2: a country that is ruled by religious leaders
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#26
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 9:32 pm)professor Wrote: A real theocracy would be God running things.

No surprise, another theist who does not know the real meaning of words.

theocracy
[thee-ok-ruh-see]
IPA Syllables
Examples Word Origin
noun, plural theocracies.
1.
a form of government in which God or a deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, the God's or deity's laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.

Besides, according to your beliefs, God already does run everything. Correct?

However, according to the definition of theocracy, unless there's one in the bible, god running things is not the definition. Guess that means man knows full well who is charge, and it is not god. It is, instead, man who professes to speak for god.
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#27
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 9:26 pm)Cato Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 9:05 pm)Drich Wrote: What about it?

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#28
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 9:46 pm)Drich Wrote:
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#29
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 8, 2015 at 10:28 am)Nope Wrote:


Until you mentioned it in the other thread I hadn't look at this one and I still need to answer your post in the other thread.

Quote:If you are a Christian, do you think that a theocracy that used your bible to create its laws would be a good place to live?

No, ancient Israel couldn't manage it, that was the whole purpose of the Law of Moses, God wanted to show through Israel that man was corrupt and needed a savior to redeem him unto the only perfect law, the law of love. Man is a feeble creature when it comes to right and wrong, what I'm saying is we can't ever agree on what is best for us as a whole. This is why there are so many different governments around the world, it's why there are so many Christian denominations. The Catholic Church is the closest thing to a theocracy today (in the western world) and we see how badly that has turned out. Please do not misunderstand I'm not speaking of the Catholic people as a whole, I'm speaking of the governing church itself. Some Middle Eastern countries have tried it and they have failed as well, we can see that in today's revolts in many of these countries. Most Islamic people do not want a religious government either they've seen the terrible results of such attempts. Man is to over religious to try and govern through laws which would hold all people to one belief, God gives us free will to choose our destiny and only a supreme being could make this work and yes it does even though Adam and Eve failed. Actually that failure set man on a path of many choices, we couldn't manage one choice, so why would anyone expect man to manage the many for his own welfare. It's always failed and will always fail until all are united under the government run by God himself, that is all those who choose to live with Him.

Quote:What about slavery? Can you offer a biblical defense as to why slavery would or would not be allowed in this imaginary theocracy? If slavery would be allowed, under what conditions could one person make another person their property?

Yes there would be slavery, there hasn't been a time in which there wasn't slavery, why would man change now, especially since slavery today is greater than any time in the past.

Quote: Would there be freedom of speech in a theocracy?

This is a difficult thing to answer for those of us who have always had this right but, in my best guess I would say it would be extremely limited, there would be no criticism of the government itself nor those in charge of the government.

Quote: Would a theocracy allow capital punishment and if so how would it be carried out?

I would say so, has there ever been one that didn't allow for it. If it was a Christian theocracy I would say yes for certain. Christian theocracy that's not even possible, God never called for a Christian theocracy.

Quote:Would businesses be able to charge interest on loans?

Here you are trying to use an OT law that Israel broke very quickly, greed is a part of the fallen man, a powerful force that most people have trouble resisting, that's why in this country lotteries are the drawing card they are, and in the end they represent a breaking of the very law you sited. They are a guise for fun that robs the poor to benefit the rich.

Quote:Would you personally want to live in a theocracy if your own religion was in charge?

No, for all the reasons I've sited.

Quote:Do you think that women would be treated fairly or have the rights that they have now?

If the government was in the western world I would say yes.

Quote: What version of Christianity would be considered Christian?

Loaded question, there is only one version of Christianity, man has taken it where it was never to go, but hey man will use anything to gain an advantage if he can. Not necessarily for power or wealth (if you can separate the two), but for ones own comfort whatever that might entail.
Not sure if this is what you wanted but it is my two cents worth.

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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#30
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
Oh yeah. Definitely. The Inquisition was a wonderful example of bible-thumping theocracy according to the law of god. Bring it on. I am sure everyone is looking forward to that day.


On second thought. Been there, done that.
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You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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