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Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
Okay, I wasn't entirely sure. Did some research a little big ago that suggested basically the same thing.
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
(January 12, 2015 at 12:40 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 11, 2015 at 8:34 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: As a secular nation I suggest that France would have non-discriminatory employment laws making it highly likely that muslims could be employed at jewish establishments.

You don't understand the word kosher do you? To have a gentile in contact with kosher food means it is no longer kosher, which defeats the purpose of the store!

(January 11, 2015 at 10:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, handling by non-Jews doesn't make the food treyf, except in some ultra-orthodox communities. What counts a kosher is food that is 1) not taboo and 2) prepared by Jews.

The woman in question could easily work alongside Jews in numerous capacities, as long as she didn't prepare the food.

Boru
Seriously?

(January 11, 2015 at 11:48 am)DeadChannel Wrote: So, for a long time my dad worked at a seafood plant. He told me that if they had a rabbi dude on the premises, supervising, they could technically sell the fish as kosher even if it was prepared by Christians/Muslims/Buddhists/Atheists.

Your dad was wrong.

Type of food, how it is prepared, how it is kept makes it kosher. The rabbi's are there to ensure proper handling. They do not make food kosher. Certain foods will always be unclean to the jews no matter what.

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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
Why do you guys keep saying it was a "she"?
On an interview I saw, the person had beard, a deep voice, short hair, uncovered face and hair... all hinting to a male individual.
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
(January 12, 2015 at 5:04 am)pocaracas Wrote: Why do you guys keep saying it was a "she"?
On an interview I saw, the person had beard, a deep voice, short hair, uncovered face and hair... all hinting to a male individual.

Now you understand why their women are made to wear niqabs.

Joking aside, the young man's actions were admirable.
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
(January 12, 2015 at 12:40 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 11, 2015 at 8:34 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: As a secular nation I suggest that France would have non-discriminatory employment laws making it highly likely that muslims could be employed at jewish establishments.

You don't understand the word kosher do you? To have a gentile in contact with kosher food means it is no longer kosher, which defeats the purpose of the store!

(January 11, 2015 at 10:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, handling by non-Jews doesn't make the food treyf, except in some ultra-orthodox communities. What counts a kosher is food that is 1) not taboo and 2) prepared by Jews.

The woman in question could easily work alongside Jews in numerous capacities, as long as she didn't prepare the food.

Boru
Seriously?

(January 11, 2015 at 11:48 am)DeadChannel Wrote: So, for a long time my dad worked at a seafood plant. He told me that if they had a rabbi dude on the premises, supervising, they could technically sell the fish as kosher even if it was prepared by Christians/Muslims/Buddhists/Atheists.

Your dad was wrong.

Type of food, how it is prepared, how it is kept makes it kosher. The rabbi's are there to ensure proper handling. They do not make food kosher. Certain foods will always be unclean to the jews no matter what.

He said the rabbi had to be there to supervise so that agreed with what you wrote Drich and means his dad wasn't wrong. It could be that the handling of fish doesnt require many extra precautions

It sounds like a Muslim employee could be hired by a Kosher store without problem. Aren't some of the Muslim food laws similar to Jewish ones?
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
Oooops? Where'd he go?? Angel
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RE: Lassana Bathily, Muslim Employee, Saved Several People During Paris Hostage Situation
(January 10, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Drich Wrote: This is suspicious.

Why? Because it was a kosher store.

In order for the food to remain kosher it could not be handled/prepared (depending on how jewish the person was) by a gentile. Muslims are Gentiles.

Not saying she could work at the store as there would be many 'unclean tasks' (janitorial) that the kosher jews could not do. However her tasks would probably mean she would work when no one else was there, as to not taint the kosher food.

The prohibition is really against idolaters, which Jews may reasonably consider Christians to be, but not so the Muslims, who are strict monotheists. I could see even Orthodox Jews making an exception for a Muslim.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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