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January 13, 2015 at 5:41 am
Greetings,
I guess morbid curiosity more than anything else has lead me to attempt to find some fellow human beings I can relate to (peoples with a Y chromosome need not apply of course :-D. I am interested to know the men/women ratio here if anyone knows?). This seems to be an insurmountable challenge without resorting to the interwebs. Don't get me wrong, I can fake relationships with people quite well and do it daily for my job (control systems engineer - there is a lot of human interaction required despite the stereotypes). I do this by ensuring that I never divulge my true opinion or say anything genuine - strictly inane babble. The main reason this is necessary is that a disdain for religion is not really acceptable where I live (QLD, AUS), people insist that all religion be respected and it seems to be important to a disturbing number of people. I'm sure many people have experienced this?
Having spent the last few years meeting a lot of people I now (I never would have said this five years ago) consider myself extremely cynical and innately anti-social (perhaps not an apt description, I don't like any of the people I know, save for my immediate family). For instance, when I here someone assert their life changing experience with eastern religions/meditation/etc my reaction is simply you're full of shit/ quit with the mental-masturbation!; I immediately think considerably less of A person when he/she says 'as a christian'; I don't believe that Islam/Christianity/et al should be respected, on the contrary (I know many of you agree with me here)...
I have never believed in any god/s at all though I did attend catholic schools for 12 years and I was baptised. Religion was simply a non-issue at home to the point where I didn't realise anyone was taking it seriously until I was in high school and a friend asked a priest a perfectly non-nonsensical question about Jesus not in jest. Up to that point I was convinced that people were going to church and praying for purely social reasons - analogous to Christmas (totally secular that is, though I had never thought seriously about any of this at that time). After that, I really hated (as much as I know the emotion I guess) religious people. I feel more pity for religious types now after my mother explained what it is like having everyone in your life tell you that Jesus died for your sins and you need to repent (my grandmother was an ex-nun- and abusive - another person completely fucked over by the church which I hold in utter contempt). I unfortunately lack the literary skill to put those conversations on paper. Anyway, I now have a great deal of respect for men and women who have emancipated themselves from their mind formed manacles, as Hitchens might say.
I'm curious to know if anyone feels similar at all (I can guess that most if not all of you are anti theistic with very little respect for the catholic church)?
Thanks!
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January 13, 2015 at 5:51 am
Welcome, anti-social one!
I can't claim to understand 100% of what you are saying in your first paragraph, but then, I have a Y chromosome...
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January 13, 2015 at 6:18 am
* Violet is completely and utterly confused.
Not sure what my chromisomal accident has to do with... anything... or dating... you know what, I'm just gonna skip the whole confused thing right here:
Welcome to the forum, new... person! 
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January 13, 2015 at 6:31 am
Ha, sorry - tonality is so hard to convey in text.
"Not sure what my chromisomal accident has to do with... anything... or dating... you know what, I'm just gonna skip the whole confused thing right here:"
It was really just in jest, nothing to do with dating, admittedly I do find women more tolerable than men even in a purely platonic way...
Perhaps I need to reed through my my writing before posting - evidently it's not very coherent 
Thanks for the welcome in any case!
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January 13, 2015 at 6:37 am
(January 13, 2015 at 5:41 am)Fisher92 Wrote: Greetings,
I guess morbid curiosity more than anything else has lead me to attempt to find some fellow human beings I can relate to (peoples with a Y chromosome need not apply of course :-D. I am interested to know the men/women ratio here if anyone knows?). This seems to be an insurmountable challenge without resorting to the interwebs. Don't get me wrong, I can fake relationships with people quite well and do it daily for my job (control systems engineer - there is a lot of human interaction required despite the stereotypes). I do this by ensuring that I never divulge my true opinion or say anything genuine - strictly inane babble. The main reason this is necessary is that a disdain for religion is not really acceptable where I live (QLD, AUS), people insist that all religion be respected and it seems to be important to a disturbing number of people. I'm sure many people have experienced this?
Having spent the last few years meeting a lot of people I now (I never would have said this five years ago) consider myself extremely cynical and innately anti-social (perhaps not an apt description, I don't like any of the people I know, save for my immediate family). For instance, when I here someone assert their life changing experience with eastern religions/meditation/etc my reaction is simply you're full of shit/ quit with the mental-masturbation!; I immediately think considerably less of A person when he/she says 'as a christian'; I don't believe that Islam/Christianity/et al should be respected, on the contrary (I know many of you agree with me here)...
I have never believed in any god/s at all though I did attend catholic schools for 12 years and I was baptised. Religion was simply a non-issue at home to the point where I didn't realise anyone was taking it seriously until I was in high school and a friend asked a priest a perfectly non-nonsensical question about Jesus not in jest. Up to that point I was convinced that people were going to church and praying for purely social reasons - analogous to Christmas (totally secular that is, though I had never thought seriously about any of this at that time). After that, I really hated (as much as I know the emotion I guess) religious people. I feel more pity for religious types now after my mother explained what it is like having everyone in your life tell you that Jesus died for your sins and you need to repent (my grandmother was an ex-nun- and abusive - another person completely fucked over by the church which I hold in utter contempt). I unfortunately lack the literary skill to put those conversations on paper. Anyway, I now have a great deal of respect for men and women who have emancipated themselves from their mind formed manacles, as Hitchens might say.
I'm curious to know if anyone feels similar at all (I can guess that most if not all of you are anti theistic with very little respect for the catholic church)?
Thanks!
Ah, you're from Queensland... that explains it.
MM
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January 13, 2015 at 6:39 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 6:31 am)Fisher92 Wrote: It was really just in jest, nothing to do with dating, admittedly I do find women more tolerable than men even in a purely platonic way... Maybe also, just for the sake of those involved, try to take an as little chromosome centric view of gender as you can manage.
Quote:Perhaps I need to reed through my my writing before posting - evidently it's not very coherent
Some of it is a bit opaque 
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January 13, 2015 at 6:51 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 6:31 am)Fisher92 Wrote: Ha, sorry - tonality is so hard to convey in text.
"Not sure what my chromisomal accident has to do with... anything... or dating... you know what, I'm just gonna skip the whole confused thing right here:"
Try these:
Code: [quote=Name]their text here[/quote]
The name part's not necessarily important in every case... the other good way to do this, though, is to click the 'reply' button below every post that you want to respond to.
Something something... you know, it's totally up to you what you do, style points and all that.
Quote:It was really just in jest, nothing to do with dating, admittedly I do find women more tolerable than men even in a purely platonic way...
Perhaps I need to reed through my my writing before posting - evidently it's not very coherent
Thanks for the welcome in any case!
Well... I find women more 'tolerable' than men in damn near every sense... but I would, since I'm sexist. Girl power and all that feministic nonsense... 
Don't worry, we value noncoherence greatly! 
(January 13, 2015 at 6:39 am)Alex K Wrote: Maybe also, just for the sake of those involved, try to take an as little chromosome centric view of gender as you can manage.
Aye... some peeps be tetchy bout dey chromies.
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January 13, 2015 at 6:54 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 6:51 am)Alice Wrote: Don't worry, we value noncoherence greatly! Are we using the the royal we again?
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January 13, 2015 at 6:59 am
(January 13, 2015 at 6:54 am)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 6:51 am)Alice Wrote: Don't worry, we value noncoherence greatly! Are we using the the royal we again?
No, we hung them last June, remember?
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January 13, 2015 at 7:13 am
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Hi Fisher, welcome
By my guess it tends to be a sausage fest, but there are quite a few of the fairer sex too. I also have a slight bias for being more comfortable talking to females, when face to face, which I can only attribute to my father being an utter shit. But I tend to get along with both just fine, as long as they are not nob heads.
I'm not sure exactly where I stand in regards to the "anti-theist" label exactly, but I loathe religion (or rather, the potential it has for harm) with a vengeance. I hate the concept of "faith" being a virtue, the idea of worshiping imaginary characters, and teaching that a bronze age book is somehow magically true. I hate religion interfering with public policy, education, and the right to walk down the street without being hassled. I hate how divisive it is, and the persecution of atheists, often through ignorance of what atheism actually is. I don't hate individual theists, unless they give me a reason to. I dislike the fact that they validate the idea of faith as being anything other than a really stupid idea, but apart from that I take each one as they come. Am I anti-theist? I'm not sure if I fit the definition.
Anyhow, welcome aboard, and I look forward to reading more from you
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