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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 12:40 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 12:30 pm)Davka Wrote: but - but - you guys aren't Christians! STFU already.
What do you expect? All the christians will say, Moses wrote them while god whispered dirty words into his ear.
So here's the answer. But I'm sure you will get some tiresome lenghty diatribe about it anyway, since all the apologists write about that bullshit.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 12:42 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Davka Wrote: I'm curious about what the Christians here believe regarding the authorship of the Torah, also called the Pentateuch, or (for clarification) Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy - also known as the Five Books of Moses.
Judaism says Moses wrote them. Traditional Christianity tends to agree. What say you?
There are several different schools of thought on this, from moses alone (which doesn't jive because of what was written of his death) a combination of moses and Arron, which is possible, to even a more out their senerio that it was a collaboration of many different writters.
No matter who wrote it bottom line is we have it and as per the parable of the talents are responsible for its contents.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Quote:No matter who wrote it bottom line is we have it and as per the parable of the talents are responsible for its contents.
I feel the same way about Fanny Hill, drippy.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 5:26 pm
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(January 15, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Davka Wrote: I'm curious about what the Christians here believe regarding the authorship of the Torah, also called the Pentateuch, or (for clarification) Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy - also known as the Five Books of Moses.
Judaism says Moses wrote them. Traditional Christianity tends to agree. What say you?
There are several different schools of thought on this, from moses alone (which doesn't jive because of what was written of his death) a combination of moses and Arron, which is possible, to even a more out their senerio that it was a collaboration of many different writters.
No matter who wrote it bottom line is we have it and as per the parable of the talents are responsible for its contents.
Jesus Christ... have you ever heard yourself speak before? I mean, is there *any* threshold whatsoever for you that makes you stop for a second and just think if what you're saying is reasonable or not?
Let me just get to the point: it sounds like no matter how the Torah was composed, it will *always* be supernaturally inspired. I beg to differ for obvious reasons, but I won't bother mentioning them since you're clearly committed to your conclusion no matter what the state of affairs would've been.
I think it's this air about you that makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 6:29 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Davka Wrote: I'm curious about what the Christians here believe regarding the authorship of the Torah, also called the Pentateuch, or (for clarification) Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy - also known as the Five Books of Moses.
Judaism says Moses wrote them. Traditional Christianity tends to agree. What say you?
There are several different schools of thought on this, from moses alone (which doesn't jive because of what was written of his death) a combination of moses and Arron, which is possible, to even a more out their senerio that it was a collaboration of many different writters.
No matter who wrote it bottom line is we have it and as per the parable of the talents are responsible for its contents.
i see.
The NT says to listen to the OT except for the parts we don't like, is that it?
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 10:39 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 5:26 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: There are several different schools of thought on this, from moses alone (which doesn't jive because of what was written of his death) a combination of moses and Arron, which is possible, to even a more out their senerio that it was a collaboration of many different writters.
No matter who wrote it bottom line is we have it and as per the parable of the talents are responsible for its contents.
Jesus Christ... have you ever heard yourself speak before? I mean, is there *any* threshold whatsoever for you that makes you stop for a second and just think if what you're saying is reasonable or not?
Let me just get to the point: it sounds like no matter how the Torah was composed, it will *always* be supernaturally inspired. I beg to differ for obvious reasons, but I won't bother mentioning them since you're clearly committed to your conclusion no matter what the state of affairs would've been.
I think it's this air about you that makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously.
I am working on the premise that God is real and put this book in our life. Therefore it is on Him to protect its content or forgive us for following it.
Working from your assumption I can honestly see how hap hazard that would be if God was not real.
The deal here is, I followed the bible and found what I was promised. In doing so I have verified the validity of the book. Now I am responsible for it's contents. (Whatever it says.)
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 10:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 10:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Your premise explains your confusion then. God has never "placed" anything anywhere, least of which a book. That, my friend, would be human beings. When you hear the term "ghostwriter" - they don't mean that literally.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 10:41 pm
My guess, the authors are forgotten to history.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm
Quote:I am working on the premise that God is real and put this book in our life.
See, Drippy? You're fucked from the start.
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RE: Who Wrote the Torah?
January 15, 2015 at 10:45 pm
Moses would have written it, but he could not carry enough stone tablets.
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