Okay, White 'Murrica....

[Dystopia]

True story, but while every race can be racist, I'm not particularly worried about racist statements about whites because I know they'll never impact politics, in fact, there's no political party that has, as an ideology, to kick out everyone who isn't white (at least a party that has minimal credit)... Usually racism is a reference to discrimination against people of colour because they are the minority in the west (for now) and it's far more common; everyone can be racist, anyone, but not all racist behaviour impacts social institutions equally.

I'm addressing this on a personal, and not a social, level. I'm tired of being assumed to be a racist because I have white skin. The question may have been a joke, cool ... but Gawdzilla's point stands nonetheless, despite appeals to social impact, etc. Racist is racist -- even in jokes.

Yes but not all racism is equally harmful. Curiously, there are not many jokes about whites that portray negative stereotypes, such as higher than average criminal activity - Most jokes about whites are about "white people problems". I don't think many people actually believe only whites can be racist, shit just look at the yamato Japanese (the natives), they are a perfect example of asian racism against other non-asian non-yamato ethnicities; it's just that in the western world racism against whites doesn't impact personal, social, economical and ethical perceptions about others as often as racism against people of colour

Also, your argument that you're tired to be wrongly assumed racist applies to your personal life, but not everyone else's, I'm not assumed to be racist because I'm white - In fact I'm tired of hearing my white relatives saying that "blacks are more racist than whites" without providing evidence (Hint - That catchphrase is meant to subliminally justify racism against blacks)

[Creed of Heresy]

White people are kind of hard to be racist against. Why? Because it's hard to be racist against one of the most racist groups in existence. That said, I think racism against white people should be directed more at American whites in particular; your average American caucasian is ignorant and prejudiced to extents that actively offend the ones that aren't.

Me, personally? I'm racist against racists.

[Losty]

True story, but while every race can be racist, I'm not particularly worried about racist statements about whites because I know they'll never impact politics, in fact, there's no political party that has, as an ideology, to kick out everyone who isn't white (at least a party that has minimal credit)... Usually racism is a reference to discrimination against people of colour because they are the minority in the west (for now) and it's far more common; everyone can be racist, anyone, but not all racist behaviour impacts social institutions equally.

I'm addressing this on a personal, and not a social, level. I'm tired of being assumed to be a racist because I have white skin. The question may have been a joke, cool ... but Gawdzilla's point stands nonetheless, despite appeals to social impact, etc. Racist is racist -- even in jokes.

Alice didn't post that...?

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White people are kind of hard to be racist against. Why? Because it's hard to be racist against one of the most racist groups in existence. That said, I think racism against white people should be directed more at American whites in particular; your average American caucasian is ignorant and prejudiced to extents that actively offend the ones that aren't.

Me, personally? I'm racist against racists.

I don't think racism should be directed at anyone except in particularly funny offensive jokes.

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Oh and I just wanted to clarify that I am also not a white murican

[dyresand]

What do you think the result would have been if the colors had been reversed?

(Try to be honest, if you can.)

http://newsok.com/update-gunman-released...le/5384876

White man shoots black police chief 4 times without being arrested or charged

Wishita County, Oklahoma — A black police chief was shot four times by a white ‘survivalist,’ and the shooting did not result in an arrest. Louis Ross, the Sentinel Oklahoma police chief, was hit three times in the chest and once in the arm.

The shooter has been identified as 29-year-old Dallas Horton. After the incident, he was detained by police but later released without being charged with any crime.

America is clearly not racist or anything for the most part. (Extreme Sarcasm)

[paulpablo]

White people are kind of hard to be racist against. Why? Because it's hard to be racist against one of the most racist groups in existence. That said, I think racism against white people should be directed more at American whites in particular; your average American caucasian is ignorant and prejudiced to extents that actively offend the ones that aren't.

Me, personally? I'm racist against racists.

Yes, your average American white person is ignorant and prejudice, so be racist against them, that's a great attitude to take against racism.

Stereotype a whole nation and race of people, then advocate racism against them.

[Ryantology]

BLACK LIVES MATTER (LESS)

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'd imagine that most black folks are pretty tired of being assumed to be X because they have dark skin. Probably a lot more tired than you are.

Tu quoque is a fallacy. While I know for a fact that minorities in this country have it much tougher than me, that doesn't justify making assumptions about my psychology based upon my skin color. I should think that this point would be obvious.

I doubt that many people automatically assume you or I are racist simply because we're white.

It's happened to me on several occasions. I obviously don't know how many people have thought that without saying it. I know that it isn't right to make such assumptions based on skin color rather than behavior, though.

If I were black, however, I'd be leery around white people I didn't know, at least until i could get some kind of read on them. Just like gays spent decades staying closeted until they knew it was safe to come out. Except black folks don't have the luxury of keeping their skin color on the down-low.

I'd be leery around police officers. My black brother-in-law tells me of the run-ins he had with the Philadelphia PD in the early 70s. 'Twasn't pretty. My nephew, the same thing, only in Columbus, OH, where he grew up. Having a dark complexion in America can be a dangerous thing. But white people in general? I think that's a bit of a broad brush there.

http://www.quotesvalley.com/images/49/le...cted-5.jpg

I'm not sure why you think I said I'm being persecuted. Perhaps you could reread my post? I think you're reading much more into it than what I wrote, judging from the lecture you give above, and this picture. What I said was that I don't like people assuming I'm racist because I'm white. Reading anything else into my point is not supported by what I wrote, thanks.

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Seriously, Gawdzilla has a point: if you're saying "x race cannot be y quality", you're talking out of your ass. FNM made an overbroad, unnuanced statement.

Hey now, just because you don't understand the nuance, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Feel free to elaborate it, then.

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Yes but not all racism is equally harmful.

Of course not. I'm much less likely of receiving abuse from police. I'm much less likely to miss out on a job because I'm white (although I did see my exam/interview results thrown out twice on the basis that whites were overrepresented in the final candidates. I'm not complaining, I understand that the old-boys' networks in fire departments needed to be broken, and it took a 9th Circuit ruling to start that process. My job search was simply part of the cost paid in order to make this country more just.) I'm not saying that I've got it as bad as any minority -- as a member of an interracial family which includes blacks and Latinos, I know goddamned well they've had it harder than me.

Also, your argument that you're tired to be wrongly assumed racist applies to your personal life, but not everyone else's, I'm not assumed to be racist because I'm white - In fact I'm tired of hearing my white relatives saying that "blacks are more racist than whites" without providing evidence (Hint - That catchphrase is meant to subliminally justify racism against blacks)

When I was a district manager for British Petroleum back in SoCal, I once had to settle an argument between two customers at one of my stations. It seems they were both angling for the only open pump. The closest car was driven by an older white guy, the farther car by a young Latino. I got out there, saw who was closer, and asked the kid, "Look, the guy's already in there, just let him go first."

"You're just saying that because he's white," was his reply.

I pulled out my wallet, and showed him a picture of my son, whose mom is Latina. "You know," I told him, "you look a lot like my son." He fell silent for a moment as my point sank in.

I kept my feelings in check replying to him, but I don't like being accused of racism -- or, to the point of FNM's joke, being blind to it -- simply because I'm white.

[BrokenQuill92]

As anti-gun as I am, am I the only one thinks this guys was right to shoot an unknown person breaking into his house with guns blazing? This doesn't seem very racist. Just some trigger happy fool that freaked when the po-po raided the wrong house.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm addressing this on a personal, and not a social, level. I'm tired of being assumed to be a racist because I have white skin. The question may have been a joke, cool ... but Gawdzilla's point stands nonetheless, despite appeals to social impact, etc. Racist is racist -- even in jokes.

Alice didn't post that...?

My apologies for the misattribution, I will ask a mod to fix it.

[Creed of Heresy]

White people are kind of hard to be racist against. Why? Because it's hard to be racist against one of the most racist groups in existence. That said, I think racism against white people should be directed more at American whites in particular; your average American caucasian is ignorant and prejudiced to extents that actively offend the ones that aren't.

Me, personally? I'm racist against racists.

Yes, your average American white person is ignorant and prejudice, so be racist against them, that's a great attitude to take against racism.

Stereotype a whole nation and race of people, then advocate racism against them.

NOW you're getting it!