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Oh so it's basically a "let's see how much you can take without resorting to magical thinking" then.
Well, I don't know, but probably a lot.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
I spend a healthy amount of time thinking about my fears. One of them is being trapped or buried alive, and my first thought always goes towards finding ways to do myself in quickly and painlessly. I'm not really one for endurance survival situations. If I'm fucked, I'd rather be done with it.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
I don't know. I think being buried in rubble, with the pain and head trauma, would probably make some crazy ideas go through my head. I do know, however, that theists always run out of the path of a moving car, rather than pray for Jesus to help them or just standing still (free pass to Heaven!).
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
I have been on the brink of suicide before, to the point of thinking about nothing else 24 hours a day. But I didn't do any prayers. I improved due to the help of very real people. I'm still plagued by suicidal thoughts daily, but again no prayers. So I guess I'm a "true atheist"
Feel free to send me a private message.
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January 21, 2015 at 6:48 am (This post was last modified: January 21, 2015 at 6:51 am by Ben Davis.)
(January 21, 2015 at 1:14 am)PreV2 Wrote:
Say you were in building in an earthquake zone and a large earthquake struck.
You were buried and in great pain as concrete trapped your legs and arms.
The hours went by and you heard some activity outside.
As days then passed without any rescue would you then decide to pray
to be rescued as a kinda last resort as the pain increased even more?
This is the 'No atheists in foxholes' fallacy. Many theists see this as the ultimate test: "...but what about when you're going to die? Won't you let your fear rule your thinking?!". The answer is that some will and some won't. Fear is a powerful emotion.
I'd add that using this tactic amounts to coercion under duress. Hardly a legally responsible way for religions to gather followers...
(January 21, 2015 at 1:14 am)PreV2 Wrote: Say you were in building in an earthquake zone and a large earthquake struck.
You were buried and in great pain as concrete trapped your legs and arms.
The hours went by and you heard some activity outside.
As days then passed without any rescue would you then decide to pray
to be rescued as a kinda last resort as the pain increased even more?
I'd chew my own legs off and crawl out of my hell-hole, head for the nearest town using my own sweat to keep my hydrated and when I got there repair their well with my bare hands and teeth, build an emergency rifle out of spare parts I find washed up on the local beach, hunt down the terrorists who's illegal experiments led to the earthquake, kill them all on my own and save the entire world.
Atheism - fuck yeah!
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
Say you were in building in an earthquake zone and a large earthquake struck.
You were buried and in great pain as concrete trapped your legs and arms.
The hours went by and you heard some activity outside.
As days then passed without any rescue would you then decide to pray
to be rescued as a kinda last resort as the pain increased even more?
This is the 'No atheists in foxholes' fallacy. Many theists see this as the ultimate test: "...but what about when you're going to die? Won't you let your fear rule your thinking?!". The answer is that some will and some won't. Fear is a powerful emotion.
I'd add that using this tactic amounts to coercion under duress. Hardly a legally responsible way for religions to gather followers...
Sorry, but I genuinely cringe reading this type of thread. You can see why people compare atheism to a religion, it's because of shit like this.
There is no "strength" in anybody's atheism, you either lack the belief in a/any god/s, or you fucking don't.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:14 am)PreV2 Wrote: Say you were in building in an earthquake zone and a large earthquake struck.
You were buried and in great pain as concrete trapped your legs and arms.
The hours went by and you heard some activity outside.
As days then passed without any rescue would you then decide to pray
to be rescued as a kinda last resort as the pain increased even more? :thinking:
Who would I pray to? A generic God? A magical fairy? A leprechaun?
I would simply be crying out in general.
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