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Evidence God Exists
RE: Evidence God Exists
Angel, I can quote(with witness'es) at least 6 occasions where the universe has delivered to me what I've asked for. Yet i'm a confirmed agnostic atheist.
Obviously your god loves me more than you
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It really IS annoying to see it in operation....no groveling, no prayer, no god, nothing niente zip.....just

"hmm I think I would like to get / do ..."Whatever" and bugger me there it is or the means to get it.

Very annoying....Angry
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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AngelThMan Wrote:Faith is mentioned quite a lot in the bible, particularly referring to prayer.

Faith isn't based on proof. I asked how you know, so why do you give me the "faith" answer?
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I as an atheist I never waste any time praying to see whether it will work.

I do not have access to the relevant support structure to ensure that these tests are carried out scientifically and to be able to record the amount of results that would be statistically significant.

Its amazing how many of the fervant theists claim to be ex-atheists I always take that claim with a pinch of salt.



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downbeatplumb Wrote:I as an atheist I never waste any time praying to see whether it will work.

I do not have access to the relevant support structure to ensure that these tests are carried out scientifically and to be able to record the amount of results that would be statistically significant.

Its amazing how many of the fervant theists claim to be ex-atheists I always take that claim with a pinch of salt.

ALL theists are ex-atheists. Big Grin
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AngelThMan Wrote:God is not afraid of anything humans can throw at him. But he is God and therefore commands the respect of being treated and believed in like a god. A god doesn't make his presence known through clinical tests or scientific studies which would unequivocally prove his existence. If God did, he would no longer be a god. He would be a dictator, or a president, or a king. By definition, a god is a spirit which humans cannot see and must believe in solely by faith.

And yet, isn't this exactly how Yahweh behaves according your beloved bible? Worship me or else. This is pure meglomanic dictatorial behaviour. He desires worship, he demands it. Sounds like Yahweh has insecurity issues.

And the whole business about "faith" is just a lovely thing concocted by the religion to avoid having to deal with facts.

Consider. What are we really talking about here. A supreme being with the power to do anything it pleases. It knocked up a universe in 7 days, created a man from mud and a woman from a spare rib. Sent a flood to destroy most of the life on earth. Etc. I mean, really, a being like this has no need for faith. If he existed and wanted people to worship him, it wouldn't really be any effort to stick a big sign in the sky saying:

"I'm watching you all! Worship me or else i will fuck you for eternity."

But no, Christian's and their ilk spout this rubbish about god "testing" us, and "faith" is required.

Sorry, but i cry bullshit of epic proportions here.

Isn't it funny that according to your holy scriptures God was more than happy to manifest himself, directly make things happen, burning bushes that talk *cough*, etc, but for the last couple of thousand years has been absolutely silent?

Ok, here is an alternate theory, maybe you can have faith in this: God did exist, up to the point where Jesus was sacrificed. However, upon Jesus returning to heaven he said to daddy "Aw Pappy, they are a bunch of ungrateful twats. Let's bugger off to Alpha Centauri, the Centaurians really would appreciate us there." And away they went, and God has not looked back since.
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"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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Man felt intelligent because he was getting so many things done. Dolphins on the other hand felt the same way for opposite reasons.

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(January 15, 2011 at 9:02 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: I'm certain you think so. I'm also certain that whatever experiences you had wouldn't be different with or without praying at all or even praying to something or someone else.

This is a great point. What would happen if we prayed to a clay pot? Well, one of three things would happen....

1) What you pray for happens almost immediately. Then you can say, "The clay pot heard my prayer and answered it!".

2) What you pray for happens, but it takes awhile (weeks, months, years, even decades!). Then you say, "The clay pot heard my prayer and granted my request when it felt I was ready!".

3) Nothing happens. Ever. Then you say, "The clay pot heard my prayer but the answer was no".

Substitute "God" for "clay pot" and you have the same thing.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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This clay pot died for our sins.

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But it has been resurrected!
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