^Try explaining breathing to a sentient being that does not breath or have any knowledge of what oxygen is, DBP. In your own words. Without any help.
See how far you get.
See how far you get.
Evidence God Exists
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^Try explaining breathing to a sentient being that does not breath or have any knowledge of what oxygen is, DBP. In your own words. Without any help.
See how far you get. Quote:^Try explaining breathing to a sentient being that does not breath or have any knowledge of what oxygen is, DBP Kindly identify such a being who exists outside of your own imagination!
Think about the analogy a little harder, Min. We are talking about trying to explain breathing to a being who does not understand what breathing or it's affects are- or, analagous to this, trying to explain faith to someone who has none.
Some people on this forum had faith, then lost it. Therefore, I can't see that faith is that unusual or indescribable. It's just another belief, except specific to religion.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
Yeah. I have no problem understanding what faith is. I used to believe in the Catholic version of god... and if that doesn't take faith... nothing does.
Quote:sentient being that does not breath And I asked for an example of such a being outside of your own imagination. You expect us to argue against your invisible friend (because we all know what you are talking about, here) which you have constructed inside your own head. Not possible or particularly worthwhile. In fact, it is little more than mental masturbation. RE: Evidence God Exists
September 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm
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(September 1, 2010 at 4:22 pm)Watson Wrote: ^Try explaining breathing to a sentient being that does not breath or have any knowledge of what oxygen is, DBP. In your own words. Without any help. Ok I could definately do that, it would take a while depending on your description of 'sentient' are you talking apes here or the kansas school board coz I think I'd rather try the apes. Any hoo, I may have to teach these 'sentient beings' the scientific principle then build up their knowledge until I can explain it but its definitley do able given time and patience, (and of course the correct vocabulary). You seem to imply that you've experienced something that makes you have faith in god. I cant think of anything that could convince me, but you let me know what you experienced and I'll have a look. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. RE: Evidence God Exists
September 1, 2010 at 7:03 pm
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(August 31, 2010 at 10:37 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Maybe if unbelievers would experience what you and I have, they'd be believers.Implied here is more predictable goalpost moving: If anyone claims to have faith in a particular god but years later down the track loses said faith, then whatever that was, it wasn't really faith. They were never reeeeeeeeally a believer. In any other context, this kind of reasoning wouldn't make any sense. "I used to be a Republican, but years later I changed my mind and registered Democrat." "Oh, you never were reeeeeeally a Republican." Yeah, right.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
RE: Evidence God Exists
September 2, 2010 at 10:26 pm
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(September 1, 2010 at 9:18 am)Thor Wrote:I've experienced the presence of God. But like the man said, it's difficult to put into words. A lot of you will say that it was just what I imagined based on my belief. But to live it is to breathe it.(August 31, 2010 at 10:37 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Maybe if unbelievers would experience what you and I have, they'd be believers.And what exactly have you "experienced"? I was first a Christian, and then an atheist. But it wasn't until I let myself be open to experiencing God that I was able to experience him. Before that I never really did, even as a Christian. Quote:I've experienced the presence of God It was probably constipation. Ex-Lax should help. |
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