How many forms of Nihilism do you subscribe to?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

It depends... what are you wanting to discuss about it?

I am a nihilistic existentialist... so i subscribe to the belief that there is no meaning ('essence') inherent in anything, thus all 'meaning' (or 'essence') is a supposition by us formed from our subjective viewpoints.

It really depends on what you want to know...?

I thought existentialism was akin to nihilism. A kind of watered down version for French bourgeois Intellectuals.(?)


ME? I think I'm a bit nihilistic rather than a true nihilist. I agree with Voltaire (I think it was him) who said something like " a few things matter a little but nothing matters much at all". I also agree with Franz Kafka,who said "the point of life is that it ends".

I prefer to think of myself as a pragmatic realist,and accept that apart from [arguably] some of my own actions,there are very few things in life over which I have any control.

Is it just me,or do you think dear old Frodo is easily threatened by anything which challenges his rather anal retentive world view?

PS Do you happen to know the meaning of the term 'Marxist-Phenomonologist' ? I really like to know.

[Edwardo Piet]

I don't happen to know the meaning, no.

I don't believe I "have" any control in the sense of free will. Nor do I believe anyone else does. I believe we are already controlling so we can't do anything other than what we are doing. All liberty is about external circumstances and states of mind, psychologically. We can't actually seize the day because we're already doing it, we're just doing what we're doing. My life is kind of like a movie. A pretty low budget and relatively shitty one at the moment lol.

EvF

[fr0d0]

Well... how you define this mass of indivisibles that are located where you have defined them as 'Sae' might be a little different from how the little neutrino defines the mass of indivisibles that are located where you have defined them as 'Sae'... and what you and they think will be entirely different from what rabbits in the 26th dimension would define these indivisibles as.

Ooorr.... more simply: subjectivity makes impossible objective essences, and also inherent meaning in all except the indivisible. You see me... the Rabbit sees a tree

That's what I hate about existentialism. It's ok to expand a little and make everything bollocks. What I rationally observe as character / individuality / inherent meaning ...isn't really because you're a strawberry and I'm a distant nebula.

existentialism =

[Autumnlicious]

All this talk about essence reminded me of the purity of essence, which lead to this:


Live for the Swarm!

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Nothing inherently has a meaning - we ascribe meaning to it or saw meaning ascribed to it by others, hence affecting our perception of it.

[Violet]

I thought existentialism was akin to nihilism. A kind of watered down version for French bourgeois Intellectuals.(?)

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Nothing inherently has a meaning - we ascribe meaning to it or saw meaning ascribed to it by others, hence affecting our perception of it.

The first part (in italics) is nihilism (that meaning/essence is not inherent). The latter part (in bold) is mostly existentialism

Hence one really can't be a nihilist without being an existentialist... and one really can't be an existentialist if they are not also a nihilist. Hence why I am a nihilistic existentialist

Thank you for saying everything that needed to be said Syna... I loved the Zerg joke too

[Zen Badger]

Why do there have to be "objective" meanings to Life?

Can't we find the meaning to life in ourselves?

Yes, Reality is ultimately just sub-atomic particles obeying the local rules of chaos theory

with our "reality" laid over the top like a cheap painting, but so what?

[Rhizomorph13]

For a second I thought it was a Spathi eye. Why can't they make a Star Control movie? That would be awesome!

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Hence one really can't be a nihilist without being an existentialist... and one really can't be an existentialist if they are not also a nihilist. Hence why I am a nihilistic existentialist

Is that a 'yes' ?

[tackattack]

I don't happen to know the meaning, no.

I don't believe I "have" any control in the sense of free will. Nor do I believe anyone else does. I believe we are already controlling so we can't do anything other than what we are doing. All liberty is about external circumstances and states of mind, psychologically. We can't actually seize the day because we're already doing it, we're just doing what we're doing. My life is kind of like a movie. A pretty low budget and relatively shitty one at the moment lol.

EvF

We can only "do" in this moment yes, but our focus of will could be on dwelling on the past or hoping for the future. I would say we can on "do". We can either do it basing our intent off of the past, present or future, IMO. Sorry to hear you're a B rate movie. Maybe you should use your budget for a B porn film Even those have a tiny bit of merit! j/k btw!

[Kelisha888]

I belong to the facebook group, "I've lost my faith in Nihilism." Does that count?