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Mudhammam · January 28, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Chad32 · January 28, 2015 at 9:54 pm

Just keep them from positions of power, and that will probably be enough to at least make them a lot less harmful. Anyone who tries to run on "religious values" should be shut down. Keep it private. If you want to believe in gods, that's fine. Just don't force your beliefs on others, or try to use the government to convert or privilege your religion.

dyresand · January 28, 2015 at 10:03 pm

first off get rid of all religious power institutions and go on from there heck churches are closing more than they are opening so its a good thing were in the first world.

ManMachine · January 28, 2015 at 10:05 pm

Mudhammam · (This post was last modified: January 28, 2015 at 10:23 pm by Mudhammam.)

(January 28, 2015 at 10:05 pm)ManMachine Wrote: We don't have a good scientific understanding of what religion does for humanity. It's unwise (not to say unscientific) to assume its all bad and needs getting rid of. We simply don't know.

MM

Whatever good comes out of it is predicated on delusion and faulty reasoning. There may be a context in which this is beneficial, but that could not possibly render any particular religious dogma a thing-in-itself good as we might reasonably consider reasoning that leads to tentative knowledge or conditional truth to be good as a thing-in-itself

AFTT47 · January 28, 2015 at 10:37 pm

I agree with him but only in the context of educating people about religion. It probably won't be long before a fundy sees this and screams bloody murder about liberals in their ivory towers wanting to ban religion.

JuliaL · January 28, 2015 at 11:55 pm

E.O. Wilson: probably my favorite living smart guy.

And he's very keen on ants.

Regina · January 29, 2015 at 3:48 am

I think there's evidence to support it. I mean if you look at the world, the most prosperous regions are the areas which are far more lax on religion - western Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada and increasingly South Korea. Conversely the most religious countries are generally poorer with more extreme human rights abuses. I don't think that's a coincidence.

There are exceptions of course, namely the communist or ex-communist countries, but I guess those are special cases.

Lucanus · January 29, 2015 at 3:51 am

Yeah NJ there is definitely a difference between the countries where atheism is an informed, logical view on the existence of gods and those where it's just another way the state has to control you.

**robvalue** · January 29, 2015 at 4:10 am

Let's all put on our lab coats, grab our Bunsen burners and go burn the arse off religion.

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