Is Christianity based on older myths?

[Cato]

Access to the details of extinct and eastern religions would have to be explained for this to be plausible.

So you find it implausible that a literate man navigating the most educated class in his society is ignorant of eastern religious tradition, but find it perfectly acceptable that Persian, Arabian, and Indian Magi followed a fucking star to dole out jewelry and perfume as the first ever gifts of Christmas?

[Minimalist]

(not to mention the "rapid rise of a religion" says absolutely nothing about its veractiy, and the fact that Christianity swiftly became the state-mandated religion in its own right, much like the flaw that YGninja accuses the Egyptian pantheon of having)

The "rapid rise of a religion" is more a testament to the viciousness of its adherents than the veracity of its claims. If "rapid rise" were a criteria the muslims would have it all over the jesus shits.

[SteveII]

Access to the details of extinct and eastern religions would have to be explained for this to be plausible.

So you find it implausible that a literate man navigating the most educated class in his society is ignorant of eastern religious tradition, but find it perfectly acceptable that Persian, Arabian, and Indian Magi followed a fucking star to dole out jewelry and perfume as the first ever gifts of Christmas?

I think it unlikely that his education included knowledge of gods and godesses of extinct and eastern religious to a point where he could pick this myth and that myth and cobble together enough pieces to warrant the charge that Christianity is recycling old myths as something new.

You don't have a comment as to what might be the motive for such an undertaking?

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If Christianity was a recycling of old myths, then it all had to be developed and synthesized between Jesus' death and the writing of Paul's letters or at the latest the gospels a few years later. That would be an impressive undertaking resulting in a systematic theology

On the contrary, once you realize that Jesus Christ of Nazareth and Bethlehem is not a historical figure and the Gospels aren't recording actual events, there is no time frame for fictional Jesus' death. The bottom falls out, and we are left with documents that represent the development of putting into writing their mysteries that may have been evolving for many decades, on top of the lapse of decades already conceded by Christian apologists.

You are in a minority (perhaps even on this forum) since most scholars have not come to realize Jesus was not a historical figure.

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1. Be compatible with OT monotheistic doctrine of God

-it isn't.

2. Be compatible with OT prophecies

-it isn't

3. Be internally consistent

-it isn't

4. and since most of you believe that Jesus actually/probably existed, had to be compatible with what the people knew to be true about Jesus--whom Paul never net.

-he didn't...and it isn't.

All insightful replies.

Are you saying that Christianity is not compatible with the OT? In what way? And how is Christianity not internally consistent?

Concerning Jesus, are you making the minority claim he didn't exist.

[rexbeccarox]

You are in a minority (perhaps even on this forum) since most scholars have not come to realize Jesus was not a historical figure.

You've asserted this many times in this thread. Cite your sources, please.

[Cato]

I think it unlikely that his education included knowledge of gods and godesses of extinct and eastern religious to a point where he could pick this myth and that myth and cobble together enough pieces to warrant the charge that Christianity is recycling old myths as something new.

Silly me. I thought my joke would so easily be understood that you would have retracted this bit of nonsense.

You don't have a comment as to what might be the motive for such an undertaking?

Please tell me you're kidding. This is a summation of your argument:

"The Jesus shit is real because you cannot crawl around in Paul's head".

[Mudhammam]

On the contrary, once you realize that Jesus Christ of Nazareth and Bethlehem is not a historical figure and the Gospels aren't recording actual events, there is no time frame for fictional Jesus' death. The bottom falls out, and we are left with documents that represent the development of putting into writing their mysteries that may have been evolving for many decades, on top of the lapse of decades already conceded by Christian apologists.

You are in a minority (perhaps even on this forum) since most scholars have not come to realize Jesus was not a historical figure.

That can't possibly be intended to be taken as an argument against the Christ-mythicists, right? Surely you know that both Appeal to Authority and Appeal to Popularity are fallacies in logical argument. I'm sure we can both find positions that were simultaneously true and yet criticized on the same errant reasoning.

[Chad32]

Are you saying that Christianity is not compatible with the OT? In what way? And how is Christianity not internally consistent?

Concerning Jesus, are you making the minority claim he didn't exist.

For starters, Jesus doesn't meet the requirements for the Jewish messaiah.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.ca/resources-i...sh-messiah

The son of god was supposed to be called Emanuel, and be the prince of peace. Instead we have a guy named Jesus who says he comes to bring a sword. Not peace. He wants you to love your neighbor as yourself, but hate yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but doesn't speak against slavery, tells his followers to steal for him, and tells them to bring his enemies before him and kill them.

[Mudhammam]

Are you saying that Christianity is not compatible with the OT? In what way? And how is Christianity not internally consistent?

Concerning Jesus, are you making the minority claim he didn't exist.

For starters, Jesus doesn't meet the requirements for the Jewish messaiah.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.ca/resources-i...sh-messiah

The son of god was supposed to be called Emanuel, and be the prince of peace. Instead we have a guy named Jesus who says he comes to bring a sword. Not peace. He wants you to love your neighbor as yourself, but hate yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but doesn't speak against slavery, tells his followers to steal for him, and tells them to bring his enemies before him and kill them.

Chad, everyone knows Jesus IS COMING BACK AGAIN to fulfill those!!!

Lol.

[Cato]

Are you saying that Christianity is not compatible with the OT? In what way? And how is Christianity not internally consistent?

For starters, the character Jesus doesn't remotely resemble the Jewish Messiah.

Edit: What Chad said.

[The Grand Nudger]

All insightful replies.

Are you saying that Christianity is not compatible with the OT? In what way? And how is Christianity not internally consistent?

Concerning Jesus, are you making the minority claim he didn't exist.

Lets not forget that these were all burdens you wished to foist upon others by fiat as things that we "must assume". No, we mustn't. You seem desperate for a claim to draw attention away from your own silly bullshit. No dice, you've asserted, I've denied. Not good enough for you, that doesn't meet your bar for conversation?

Then stop doing it.