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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 12:13 am
The art of subconscious subversion perfected via the manipulation of man's greatest fears.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 12:54 am
A straitjacket for the intellect, LSD for reality perception, rohypnol for that pesky moral compass.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 3:27 am
(February 10, 2015 at 6:54 pm)Cato Wrote: (February 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm)emilynghiem Wrote: True Christianity = True Charity
False Christianity = False Charity
Where Forgiveness is the greatest act of charity of all
Christ Jesus = Restorative Justice (forgiveness correction restitution)
Antichrist = Retributive Justice (judgment punishment rejection)
I think you are referring to FALSE christianity which is Antichrist.
Claiming to enforce laws of justice, but causing injustice instead.
If that's the case, Christ Jesus is a miserable cunt. "Sorry Mr. False Christian, the man who raped and murdered your five year old child will not be punished. He will be forgiven, corrected and restituted instead. If you don't agree then you aren't a TRUE Christian." People that think this way should be monitored for psychopathic tendencies.
Nope. Not what Forgiveness means.
Many people forgive the murderer EMOTIONALLY so they are free of the anxiety and stress, but the laws of justice still follow through for consequences to the actions. I believe even more restitution should be required proportional to the crimes and damages, and believe laws will start adding more as deterrence.
You do not need to be angry, or full of negative emotions,
in order to enforce laws of justice. In fact, it is better for your health and mind NOT to carry such stress and burdens.
Forgiveness is about letting go of the emotions attached,
but this does NOT change the punishment due for wrongdoing.
This is a DANGEROUS myth about forgiveness.
People still need to be held accountable to the degree of wrongs
committed, even after forgiving them. These two are separate!
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 9:45 am
(February 11, 2015 at 3:27 am)emilynghiem Wrote: Nope. Not what Forgiveness means.
It is what forgiveness means because you can be like Hitler and kill the jews and still get away with it because god is all forgiving. When you put your "sins" on jesus that is your free pass to heaven so there is no true justice in a system like that.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 10:35 am
The only person who can forgive me for my actions is me and any party I have wronged. It's got nothing to do with anyone else.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 10:44 am
(February 11, 2015 at 10:35 am)robvalue Wrote: The only person who can forgive me for my actions is me and any party I have wronged. It's got nothing to do with anyone else.
yep and also this
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christians need to be stronger people because Gandhi said it best.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 10:53 am
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I have an interesting take on the whole forgiveness thing. My parents have been complete fucks to me my whole life. And they continue to be. I have told them this and they don't care, they continue. One of the mental health professionals I saw said I should forgive them. That's a weird concept. How can you forgive someone for something they are still doing to you and don't feel sorry about or even acknowledge is wrong? All I can do is let go of the anger of what they have done in the past, and minimize the effect of their actions on me now. I suppose in a sense I forgive the past. But as people, it makes no sense to forgive them. I've dealt with the anger well though, it's way more under control.
I know what you're thinking, kick them out of your life. I would do, except I'm financially dependent on them to be able to rent somewhere to live as my benefits don't nearly cover it. So I have to put up with them because the alternative would be being homeless. And not just for me but my wife and pets. Luckily I live so far away from them now there is no danger of them "popping in". I don't intend to ever see them again.
Anyhow, so my parents are dicks. My father has only ever apologized once in his whole life to me, and that was for something entirely inconsequential.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 10:25 pm
(February 9, 2015 at 8:26 am)Spooky Wrote: ![[Image: 54d7328eeee27_zpsmzejxk7b.jpeg~320x480]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=rs1309.pbsrc.com%2Falbums%2Fs624%2Fserickson87%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F54d7328eeee27_zpsmzejxk7b.jpeg~320x480)
Faulty logic and a misrepresentation of reality. I've not seen a better representation of Christianity than the above.
In 15 words or less, your description of Christianity (or religion in general)
Actually this is the perfect idea of evolutionary examination, always moving the target so evolution can be used to delude the gullible.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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It has been said that religion is the opiate of the masses. I prefer to see it as the lobotomy of the masses.
(February 11, 2015 at 10:25 pm)Godschild Wrote: (February 9, 2015 at 8:26 am)Spooky Wrote:
Faulty logic and a misrepresentation of reality. I've not seen a better representation of Christianity than the above.
In 15 words or less, your description of Christianity (or religion in general)
Actually this is the perfect idea of evolutionary examination, always moving the target so evolution can be used to delude the gullible.
GC
You're mixing the science of evolution up with the claim of creationism again.
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RE: Best description of Christianity
February 11, 2015 at 11:22 pm
(February 11, 2015 at 10:25 pm)Godschild Wrote: (February 9, 2015 at 8:26 am)Spooky Wrote:
Faulty logic and a misrepresentation of reality. I've not seen a better representation of Christianity than the above.
In 15 words or less, your description of Christianity (or religion in general)
Actually this is the perfect idea of evolutionary examination, always moving the target so evolution can be used to delude the gullible.
GC
I don't understand your peculiar need to trumpet your ignorance of biology at every turn. Is it a Baptist thing, or are you simply an incurable fuckwit?
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