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February 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 5:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Regarding the national motto, despite it mentioning god, the Supreme Court has judged that the motto is more patriotic and historical in nature than anything else, and that it doesn't actively endorse a particular religion.
Not to mention it was installed (like the mention of God in the pledge of allegiance) in the mid-fifties in the fevered paranoid haze of the anti-communist hysteria of the time.
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February 12, 2015 at 6:07 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (February 12, 2015 at 5:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Regarding the national motto, despite it mentioning god, the Supreme Court has judged that the motto is more patriotic and historical in nature than anything else, and that it doesn't actively endorse a particular religion.
Not to mention it was installed (like the mention of God in the pledge of allegiance) in the mid-fifties in the fevered paranoid haze of the anti-communist hysteria of the time.
Oh, I know. I mentioned that in my first reply to YGNinja in this thread. The above is the SCOTUS' justification for allowing it to continue.
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February 12, 2015 at 6:59 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (February 12, 2015 at 5:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Regarding the national motto, despite it mentioning god, the Supreme Court has judged that the motto is more patriotic and historical in nature than anything else, and that it doesn't actively endorse a particular religion.
Not to mention it was installed (like the mention of God in the pledge of allegiance) in the mid-fifties in the fevered paranoid haze of the anti-communist hysteria of the time.
Its not the cold war anymore so one would wonder why we aren't getting rid of god off of our money. i wan't secular money.
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February 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm
Quote:How many religions had churches at the relevant time period? For this reason your claim is a non sequitur. By 'church' they were referring to the Christian religion alone. The only objective was to keep the state from interfering with or controlling the Christian Church.
A-hem. Hate to nitpick, but no, Christians weren't the only ones present at the time. Including one of the big pushers for church state separation for the past 300years, the Jews. IIRC they were big pushers for church state separation in the beginning too.
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February 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Natachan Wrote: Quote:How many religions had churches at the relevant time period? For this reason your claim is a non sequitur. By 'church' they were referring to the Christian religion alone. The only objective was to keep the state from interfering with or controlling the Christian Church.
A-hem. Hate to nitpick, but no, Christians weren't the only ones present at the time. Including one of the big pushers for church state separation for the past 300years, the Jews. IIRC they were big pushers for church state separation in the beginning too.
Jews have synagogues.
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February 16, 2015 at 9:30 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)YGninja Wrote: (February 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Natachan Wrote: A-hem. Hate to nitpick, but no, Christians weren't the only ones present at the time. Including one of the big pushers for church state separation for the past 300years, the Jews. IIRC they were big pushers for church state separation in the beginning too.
Jews have synagogues.
Ha! This may be the best thing I've read all day! I'd roflol or something but I think you're serious.
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February 17, 2015 at 11:14 am
(February 12, 2015 at 6:59 pm)dyresand Wrote: Its not the cold war anymore so one would wonder why we aren't getting rid of god off of our money. i wan't secular money.
Putting 'god', particularly one into vows of poverty and rich men being compared to camels going through eyes of needles to get to heaven, on money doesn't make money religious,
it makes 'god' secular.
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February 17, 2015 at 12:10 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)YGninja Wrote: Jews have synagogues.
Oh, quit it. Next you're gonna say that the Earth is round.
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February 17, 2015 at 12:15 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)YGninja Wrote: Jews have synagogues.
They do?! OMG!
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February 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)YGninja Wrote: (February 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Natachan Wrote: A-hem. Hate to nitpick, but no, Christians weren't the only ones present at the time. Including one of the big pushers for church state separation for the past 300years, the Jews. IIRC they were big pushers for church state separation in the beginning too.
Jews have synagogues.
It's usually polite to answer people when they've given you the time to do the same for you.
I wonder why you're avoiding the previous replies?
I particularly like your thinking around your version of Christianity being the only "Church" being referred to though, very cute.
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