Islam Zombie

[mralstoner]

Obama recently took his "ISIS is not Islamic" rhetoric to another level at the (now infamous) prayer breakfast meeting (explained below).

When I hear such affronts to reason, evidence and facts, the Cranberries' song Zombie starts playing in my head, although the words are changed. The zombies are not fighters in Northern Ireland, the zombies are Obama and the media and academia who refuse to study Islam, but who instead remain silent and obstinately ignorant of reality.

The perps are ISIS and their Western proxies, but the zombies are Obama and the media who snuff out rationality with a impenetrable wall of Newspeak.

I give you Islam Zombie (lyrics below) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

Another head hangs lowly,
Life is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence.
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In Islam, in Islam they are fighting,
With Koran and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In Islam, in Islam, they are crying...

In Islam, in Islam,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in Islam?
In Islam?
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin'
Heart is taken over
When the violence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old team since 623.
In Islam, in Islam they're still fighting,
With Koran and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In Islam, in Islam, they are dying...

Here is the Obama prayer breakfast quote:

And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ... So this is not unique to one group or one religion.

Christians were offended by his equating ISIS with the Crusades. But I was offended by his affront to reason, facts, and evidence.

So, there's nothing unique about Islam that inspires violence more so than other religions? Are you sure, Obama? How do you know?

Of course, this is not a rational argument by Obama, it's a distraction. Obama does not want us to look into Islam, to study it, because he's afraid of what we'll find out.

Obama identifies strongly with Muslims because of his Muslim family heritage, and childhood spent in Indonesia.

If we were to study Islam, we might find out that the terrorists have the more credible interpretation of Islam, which implies that moderate Muslims might be ignorant fools about Islam i.e. flag bearers for a truly repulsive head-chopping religion.

This is humiliating for moderate Muslims, and for Obama who identifies strongly with Muslims.

That is why he distracts us away from looking into Islam. The truth is humiliating.

The kindest thing we can say about Islam is that it is open to interpretation, but the terrorists have a very credible interpretation (dare I say, more credible).

This denial and refusal to study Islam is not limited to Obama, it runs right through the media and academia.

They are zombies.

The refusal to study Islam, because it might humiliate moderate Muslims, is a national security threat. Obama is placing the feelings of moderate Muslims above national security. It is a dereliction of duty. He is not president of America, he is president of moderate Muslims.

In “Audacity of Hope” (page 261) Obama wrote: "I will stand with them [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction".

He wasn't kidding. His first allegiance is to Muslims, not to America.

For a rational study of Islam, see these videos:

Code:

Bill Warner - A Taste of Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

A Rational Study of Radical Islam, by Dr. Bill Warner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sYgqRtZGg

Postscript, I forgot how many zombies there are on this forum too. So, for all the atheist apologists for Islam here, count yourself among the zombies. Please hand back your rationality certificate and I will give it to someone more worthy. Christians are more rational than many atheists here, when it comes to a sane response to the existential threat of Islam.

[Mudhammam]

I'm just glad we have Obama to clarify for us what "true" Islam is.

[FatAndFaithless]

His first allegiance is to Muslims, not to America.

Well that's just retarded.

[Mudhammam]

Another retarded thing in the OP.

In “Audacity of Hope” Obama wrote: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Complete fabrication.

Q: Did Obama write that he would "stand with the Muslims" and that he nurses a "pervasive sense of grievance and animosity" toward whites?
A: No. A widely circulated e-mail fabricates some quotes from Obama’s books and twists others.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obamas-...my-father/

[FatAndFaithless]

I find anything mralstoner says hard to look at with anything but raised eyebrows and general annoyance after his performance in that thread supporting putting Muslims in camps.

[Mudhammam]

I find anything mralstoner says hard to look at with anything but raised eyebrows and general annoyance after his performance in that thread supporting putting Muslims in camps.

Yeah, this post here is pretty nutty.

[Homeless Nutter]

Politics and more specifically - political correctness is what makes some people gloss over the teachings of Islam and treat Muslim extremists as if they came from nowhere. The truth may be, that given enough time - Islam could reform itself and become far less aggressive and overall fundamentalist than it is now, just as other religions did. The problem is - in the nuclear era we can't afford to wait another few hundred years for the "moderate" Muslims to understand, that throwing rocks at defenseless women - for whatever reason, I don't care if they sucked Satan's d**k - is un-acceptable and freedom of speech is non-negotiable.

Moderate Muslims are way more fanatical, than most fundamentalist Jews and Christians - who at the very least accepted the fact, that they can not stone people in public for religion-related offenses, even if they secretly want to. Judeo-christian scriptures have also been "massaged", by means of new translations and interpretations, to eradicate the idea of a holy war, while jihad is still a staple of muslim faith, even if most followers don't act on it.

The most important question - the way I see it - is what will those moderates do, if/when islamic extremists, like IS gain the upper hand, over the western world. Will they oppose their fanatical minority and stop jihad from continuing, in the name of modern humanist values, against the word of Quran? Will they remain silent and passive and let atrocities continue? Or will they decide that there's no need for pretense anymore and join in the war effort, to earn their glory in the eyes of allah?

Before WWII there were plenty of "moderate" antisemites and nationalists all over Europe. They did not kill Jews themselves, but they did not like them and would be glad to get rid of them. Consequently, when fascist extremists gained control over most of Europe, their job of exterminating Jews was so much easier, because while most moderate antisemites wouldn't commit violent acts themselves - they had very few qualms about turning a blind eye to the "Final Solution", turning people of jewish ancestry over to the german forces and taking possessions of the victims. Even now I know personally many Christians in Eastern Europe, who say - privately - that Holocaust was a good thing and that Jews needed to be "dealt with".

My point is - moderates are opportunistic and can be swayed one way or the other. And I find it hard to imagine, that people, who have no mercy on their own mothers and sisters, when they stray from allah's way, will be willing to risk their lives and salvation for "infidels".

[robvalue]

Just out of interest, if I went up to a "moderate" Muslim in a civilized country, and waved about the pictures of Mohammed I'd drawn, what do you think the reaction would be? Obviously I would never be such a dick as to do this, but I wonder what level of offense, or action, it would provoke? Would it be laughed off? I don't have enough experience with Muslims to have any idea.

[Losty]

Just out of interest, if I went up to a "moderate" Muslim in a civilized country, and waved about the pictures of Mohammed I'd drawn, what do you think the reaction would be? Obviously I would never be such a dick as to do this, but I wonder what level of offense, or action, it would provoke? Would it be laughed off? I don't have enough experience with Muslims to have any idea.

I have a friend who is Muslim. If she knew you she might playfully pretend to murder you (because her sense of humor is awesome and always a bit on the dark side) for strangers she'd probably call you an idiot and keep walking.

[Homeless Nutter]

Just out of interest, if I went up to a "moderate" Muslim in a civilized country, and waved about the pictures of Mohammed I'd drawn, what do you think the reaction would be? Obviously I would never be such a dick as to do this, but I wonder what level of offense, or action, it would provoke? Would it be laughed off? I don't have enough experience with Muslims to have any idea.

I've worked and currently work with many Muslims. I've never seen one "laugh off" anything related to their religion. I've never personally tested their reaction to blatant disrespect of their religion, but it seems they are completely un-movable when it comes to their customs and beliefs. I'm talking - people who won't speak to, or even acknowledge a european woman at work (in Europe, nonetheless), because she has uncovered head and is therefore - a whore.
And any discussion about religious matters with most of them is completely counter-productive. They get angry even when Christians call Jesus "son of God" in their presence. Which is kind of funny, but still pretty terrifying. In fact - isn't that the reason Asia Bibi is about to be killed in Pakistan?