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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: No, God is who He says He is, He used the Bible to tell us. The Bible has nothing to do with who God is, period.
Here's circular reasoning, you argue evolution from books, because someone wrote it and said it's true, yet you and I both know there's no proof for evolution, unless you are claiming to have lived long enough to observe it.
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Evolution is true because unlike the bible it has proof. The bible offers no truth and to say god is circular is asinine because if god was real why is there so many versions of christianity and why are people interpreting "gods" word incorrectly.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:12 pm
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(February 23, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (February 23, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote:
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Actually, I have lived long enough to observe evolution, and I don't argue it based on books, but rather the repeatable experiments therein. Those experiments and observations, by the way, are readily verifiable in a way that religious claims never are, even if I hadn't observed it happen myself.
Care to tell us which kind of whatever change into a different whatever. There has never been an experiment that has shown such and many top evolutionist are honest enough to say so.
Quote:But I have: my family breeds dogs for show, so for a while I could go visit my grandparents and see the litters, generation by generation, and what did I see? Each generation was different from the one that came before it; evolution in action.
You have made an error in your thinking Esq, I myself breed show dogs and show them in AKC and Sieger (German style shows). We breed to improve traits not to change them, that is exactly what show breeding is about, if you doubt what I say look up the reasons AKC sets for keeping the dogs ta o a standard, you do know what standard means in the world of the show ring correct. I've just breed my Champion Male and Champion Female Rottweilers because of their shared and unshared ancestors. In doing so I hope to have pups born that will be closer to the breed standard.
Quote:Now, you could just bray "but they were all still dogs!" and if you do that you'll only be demonstrating that not only do you not understand how we know evolution is real and how we argue for that, but you also don't know what evolution itself is.
I do not need to bray, you've shown you do not understand show breeding and it's opposite of your evolution theory. However the dogs your parents breed are still dogs and until they become something other than dogs you you haven't observed evolution.
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(February 23, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: (February 23, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: When you do you don't say anything so you might as well say nothing.
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The amount of irony could cure several anaemics.
You have no more reality to your statements than he does.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:21 pm
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(February 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm)dyresand Wrote: No, God is who He says He is, He used the Bible to tell us. The Bible has nothing to do with who God is, period.
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What? That makes zero sense. "God is who he says he is." Okay, how do I know what he says? Oh, just read what he says he is in the book, because "He used the bible to tell us." Perfect, and since this is literally the only way to find out who and what God is, I can use this book to assess what sort of character this God is?
No? Why not? Because "the bible has nothing to do with what God is. Period." I saw the period at the end of what you wrote. If you spelled it out so I wouldn't be confused, it didn't work and I'm not talking about the punctuation...
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:25 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Care to tell us which kind of whatever change into a different whatever. There has never been an experiment that has shown such and many top evolutionist are honest enough to say so.
There you go: you start out by not talking about evolution, and then pretending the things you haven't said about evolution are somehow a problem. But I'll humor you: can you find me a single mainstream, up to date definition of evolution that even has the word "kind" in it?
Quote:You have made an error in your thinking Esq, I myself breed show dogs and show them in AKC and Sieger (German style shows). We breed to improve traits not to change them, that is exactly what show breeding is about, if you doubt what I say look up the reasons AKC sets for keeping the dogs ta o a standard, you do know what standard means in the world of the show ring correct. I've just breed my Champion Male and Champion Female Rottweilers because of their shared and unshared ancestors. In doing so I hope to have pups born that will be closer to the breed standard.
And at no point do you stop to think that retention of desirable traits and the elimination of undesirable ones is exactly how natural selection works upon a breeding population? Or where those traits came from? I mean, many of them, up to and including the existence of Rottweilers themselves didn't exist at one point, and came into being gradually through mutation and selective breeding. Just saying that you currently breed to retain traits doesn't change the fact that at some point, those traits arose via mutation.
Quote:I do not need to bray, you've shown you do not understand show breeding and it's opposite of your evolution theory. However the dogs your parents breed are still dogs and until they become something other than dogs you you haven't observed evolution.
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So... do you actually think that repeating back to me my own example of a factually incorrect talking point I've predicted you might make actually counts as an argument? Because that's... that's just breathtaking.
But please, do find me a mainstream, up to date definition of evolution that mentions dogs siring children that aren't dogs, or any animal doing that, if you can.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:30 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have no more reality to your statements than he does.
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Which is an another empty assertion from you, since you haven't presented any valid counter arguments to anything Rob or I have said. But then again anything you say is just making shit up and then repeating it over and over.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:33 pm
GC, do look up the difference between Micro evolution and Micro evolution. Do you know how vaccines work? You can't seriously be this intellectually sealed away. Surely there's something youd be willing to learn about besides Mythological Apologetics...
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:34 pm
GC, were domestic dogs bred from wolves or do you consider that a myth spread by scientists?
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm
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Definitely a myth. Plus, if Americans came from Brittish people, then why are there still Brittish people?
SUCK IT, Evolution!
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: The amount of irony could cure several anaemics.
He should change his name to Tony Stark, because he is Irony Man.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:41 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: He should change his name to Tony Stark, because he is Irony Man.
He should start his own business. He could iron so many clothes with just his presence.
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