Is God really real or are people simply deluded?

[FatAndFaithless]

[Norman Humann]

[Thumpalumpacus]

I was wondering when you were ever gonna answer my shout-outs ... playing hard to get?

Where? where?
In case of doubt, oblivious is more in character with me...

The other day I realized that that one girl was flirting with me 15 years ago.

I've been throwing "I'll take X for $500, Alex" into threads for a month now, not that it's flirting -- just figured you'd pop up sooner.

[JesusHChrist]

What a great way to determine what's true. Just go with what's beautiful!

That beautiful scenery god made that and god those flowers he made everything stupid pollen but seriously nope no god needed to create anything.

Bot flies are so beautiful as they lay their larva under your skin, only to eat their way out of your flesh and burst out into the world to do it all over again. (After a bit of fly hanky panky natch).

O Nature! Thou Art So Beautiful!

[RobertE]

Nice to see some decent responses and debate from all concerned. I think one of the things that persuaded me to go in the other direction of being an agnostic, is simply because of a story in the bible (which book I cannot remember now) and how Jesus cures a boy who had the devil inside of him. I have been an Epileptic for a very long time and for me, the very symptoms in that story mirror those of epilepsy. This is short made me quite angry. I have heard many stories in where Catholics in Africa tried to exorcise those who had Epileptic seizures up until recently. The people from the villages used to think that these people were possessed by the devil of some sorts, and that, ladies and gentlemen is the sort of power religion has over people who may have little to no education whatsoever and will believe whatever an educated person will say. It is just one example which may go to show what might have happened when there was some sort of intelligent being who decided to do a Charles Manson and brainwash them into thinking he is the almighty. Christopher Hitchens brought it up in his debate about the Catholic church in the Intelligence Squared debate about how the catholic church took advantage of the indigenous people of South American. I guess it can be afforded to Islam too, where the only ones who really know Islam are Imams, and they know how to manipulate peoples minds. For example, how many of those who have gone over to fight for ISIS are fluent in Arabic?

[robvalue]

Yes, religious beliefs do not mesh will with real medicine. We've had several topics about that recently, about parents who pull their children off of real treatment and put them onto insta-fail "alternative" treatments, basically murdering them. Because jesus talked to the child, apparently.

[abaris]

I have been an Epileptic for a very long time and for me, the very symptoms in that story mirror those of epilepsy. This is short made me quite angry. I have heard many stories in where Catholics in Africa tried to exorcise those who had Epileptic seizures up until recently.

As with everything in life, christianity has introduced a whole new level of stupid. The ancient Greeks and Romans in their majority also connected epilepsy with spirits, but they also associated it with the presence of genius and the divine. There's one notable exemption though and that's Hippocrates, who rightfully assumed that it's an ailment originating in the brain.

Leave it to Christians to bring evil into it.

[Godscreated]

God is real, I know this as fact

He is not and you do not.

He is and I do, what I don't understand is how you missed out.

GC

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God is real, I know this as fact and no one can prove different and yes, you have a lot to learn about many things.

I'm not convinced that you do. You'd have to be able to sense him with your limited senses, and I'm very sure that you can't.

The best you can do is believe God is real.

Wrong, I do know no doubts. God created us and knows how to reveal Himself to those who actually want to know.

GC

[GrandizerII]

I'm not convinced that you do. You'd have to be able to sense him with your limited senses, and I'm very sure that you can't.

The best you can do is believe God is real.

Wrong, I do know no doubts. God created us and knows how to reveal Himself to those who actually want to know.

GC

Sorry, GC, but I call BS.

[Godscreated]

God is real, I know this as fact and no one can prove different and yes, you have a lot to learn about many things. Not trying to be unpleasant, just stating what I see in what you wrote.
Welcome to the forum.

GC

So, since you have this as fact, can I assume you have some evidence(*) you would like to share?


*Testable, verifiable evidence.

Not for you I don't, even if I told you, you would reject it because you would deem it whatever so you could deny it. Been here to long to not know most of your so called logical thinking.

GC

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Wrong, I do know no doubts. God created us and knows how to reveal Himself to those who actually want to know.

GC

Sorry, GC, but I call BS.

SO, that makes it untrue, very logical me thinks, the logic I've come to expect from unbelievers.

GC