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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 4:15 am
(March 12, 2015 at 1:14 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 12, 2015 at 12:34 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: You've been here far too long to not understand what an atheist is.
Don't you think I knew what you were saying.
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Your post implies that "fooling God" would be a concern of mine.
That represents a fundamental ignorance of atheism.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 4:38 am
(March 11, 2015 at 8:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: They are trying to get her released from death row, not prison.
I thought you hypocrites were against the death penalty...
I certainly am. I'd much rather she spend the rest of her life in prison. If you want to look at a hypocrite, you need only look at the people defending her life because of her (supposed) new-found faith.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 11:44 am
(March 12, 2015 at 12:54 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 12, 2015 at 12:32 am)dyresand Wrote: Do you realize how illegal that is to pay someone to commit a crime is. If she didn't want to be with her husband she could have gotten a divorce but no she hired someone to kill him and she has to pay the price. The story doesn't mention that she paid anyone, just "persuaded".
You are still held accountable for wanting to kill someone without having the blood on your hands. Even if you hired or persuaded someone to kill someone for you. you the person are liable if that person dies or not because you are the one who wants a person dead and that says a lot. finding christ in jail shouldn't even get her off of death row.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(March 12, 2015 at 12:09 am)Huggy74 Wrote: She needs to die because she convinced someone to kill her husband? If she is not the one that committed the act, don't you think death is a little much? As far as I know her boyfriend was an adult and was capable of making the decision NOT to kill the guy.
Not that I condone her behavior, it's just strange that the actual killer didn't receive the death penalty.
Actually, it's quite common for the person that pulled the trigger to get less of a sentence than the mastermind behind the crime. Also, a lot of times prosecutors will make a deal with the actual murderer to get the one who orchestrated the whole thing. Perhaps this is what happened here.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm
(March 12, 2015 at 4:15 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 12, 2015 at 1:14 am)Godschild Wrote: Don't you think I knew what you were saying.
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Your post implies that "fooling God" would be a concern of mine.
That represents a fundamental ignorance of atheism.
Think what you want, it's fine with me.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(March 12, 2015 at 4:38 am)One Above All Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 8:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: They are trying to get her released from death row, not prison.
I thought you hypocrites were against the death penalty...
I certainly am. I'd much rather she spend the rest of her life in prison. If you want to look at a hypocrite, you need only look at the people defending her life because of her (supposed) new-found faith.
I would have more respect for the people trying to get her off death row if they also worked attempted save other non Christian murders from death row.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 6:16 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 8:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: They are trying to get her released from death row, not prison.
I thought you hypocrites were against the death penalty...
Speaking for myself, I take the view - with an almost metaphysical certitude - that the death penalty is always wrong, in all cases, and under any circumstances.
So kindly take the term 'hypocrite', fold it until it's nothing but corners, and shove it directly up your judgmental, ill-informed arse.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 6:34 pm
(March 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: Think what you want, it's fine with me.
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If that were true, I don't think you'd be here.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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I'm against it because it sets a bad precedent. A religious conversion does not justify clemency.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
March 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm
(March 12, 2015 at 12:12 am)Godschild Wrote: Prove she did what you have purposed. Do you know her mind, do you even know if the things said about her are not true, just what do you think you know about this lady. There are many people that try to get peoples death sentence lowered to life in prison. Because one has become a Christian you object, so do you preach kill the Christians.
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Nice little rant. Ignorant as always about many of us, since a large part of us here on this board are in opposition of capital punishment. That means, death row shouldn't exist in the first place, which is more than can be said about many of your fellow christians, at least when it comes to politicians. I don't know your stance, so, as opposed to your not so humble self, I'm not including you personally.
So she should get off, but not for the reasons given. She should get off because she got sentenced to a barbaric and inhumane punishment.
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