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Religious belief/disbelief pill
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RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 13, 2015 at 1:49 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:

Hmmm... Maybe the religion pill should simply help the patient believe whatever he/she hears or reads...
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#12
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 13, 2015 at 11:00 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: What if a pill existed that could cause a person to believe a particular religion or even believe atheism (gnostic)?

What do you think of engineering a religion that would increase happiness, productivity, morality, and other beneficial traits, and then force these religious pills down everybody's throats (sort of like giving pills to a cat Smile )?

Or if the social engineers decided that atheism would be best, what about forcing atheism pills down everybody's throats?

Childhood indoctrination is very much like this IMO.

No not in the least, sorry but in my experience most children are not indoctrinated, many Christian parents haven't the interest to even teach their children anything. Today it seems that parents are to busy with their lives and getting ahead.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#13
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 14, 2015 at 12:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: No not in the least, sorry but in my experience most children are not indoctrinated, many Christian parents haven't the interest to even teach their children anything. Today it seems that parents are to busy with their lives and getting ahead.

GC

So, assuming you are right and Christian parents are not indoctrinating their children, is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#14
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 14, 2015 at 12:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: No not in the least, sorry but in my experience most children are not indoctrinated, many Christian parents haven't the interest to even teach their children anything. Today it seems that parents are to busy with their lives and getting ahead.
Children trust most of what their parents say, so it doesn't take much to indoctrinate them. If the family sometimes goes to church, or even if a parent occasionally voices a religious opinion in front of the child, then indoctrination happens.
On the other hand, parents are less religious, and children are exposed to a greater variety of religious ideas through their peers (due to the shrinking percentage of Christians), so you are probably right that indoctrination is decreasing.
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#15
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
And the dominant culture makes a difference as well. If you were in India, growing up Muslim or Hindu rather than Christian would hardly be a surprise because the beliefs are all around you while you are growing up. Children are very impressionable.
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RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 13, 2015 at 11:00 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: What if a pill existed that could cause a person to believe a particular religion or even believe atheism (gnostic)?

What do you think of engineering a religion that would increase happiness, productivity, morality, and other beneficial traits, and then force these religious pills down everybody's throats (sort of like giving pills to a cat Smile )?

Or if the social engineers decided that atheism would be best, what about forcing atheism pills down everybody's throats?

Childhood indoctrination is very much like this IMO.

I believe you've just described the movie "Equilibrium":


I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#17
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 15, 2015 at 12:09 am)Spooky Wrote: I believe you've just described the movie "Equilibrium":
Thanks Smile Now I know what movie to watch next.
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#18
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
I think that people remain in religions because the particular faith meets some need they have. A pill might remove their faith but wouldn't solve whatever issues led to them to turn to religion for answers.
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RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
(March 15, 2015 at 5:07 pm)Nope Wrote: I think that people remain in religions because the particular faith meets some need they have. A pill might remove their faith but wouldn't solve whatever issues led to them to turn to religion for answers.
Imagine if believing in ceiling cat could make you happier and more productive.
Would you take the ceiling cat pill - knowing that you would be extremely happy and productive afterwards?

In other words, you said that religious belief addresses issues that people have, so why not take a pill to cause religious belief if it helps these issues? Of course the religion would need to be carefully engineered to maximize the benefits and minimize the harms.
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#20
RE: Religious belief/disbelief pill
I could "solve" all my issues by being drunk all the time so that I no longer cared about anything.

I don't think religion solves problems so much as drowns them. It makes you take a step back from reality and you hand over the reigns, to some degree.

Surely there's a healthier alternative than fairy tales for adults... come on people, let's find it quick!
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